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Posted: 13 July 2024 at 5:42am | IP Logged Quote kaqueno

Hello everyone friends I would like to ask if anyone can
comment on the differences in Sting's single - "Fortress
Around Your Heart" [LP and 45 version] 4:40 and [Hugh
Padgham Remix] 4:39, I have both versions and I don't hear
the differences.




Thank you

Edited by kaqueno on 13 July 2024 at 5:43am


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Posted: 14 July 2024 at 1:50pm | IP Logged Quote mjb50

Where are you getting that there's a Hugh Padgham remix?

I'm not seeing such a credit anywhere.

No Padgham/Sting overlap until the '90s.

Edited by mjb50 on 14 July 2024 at 1:52pm
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Posted: 14 July 2024 at 3:15pm | IP Logged Quote kaqueno

mjb50 wrote:
Where are you getting that there's a Hugh
Padgham remix?

I'm not seeing such a credit anywhere.

searchParam=sting&superFilter=Remix">No Padgham/Sting
overlap until the '90s.


the version extracted from the CD single "when we dance",
released in 1994, and it lasts 4:39, not 4:10.


https://www.discogs.com/master/44568-Sting-When-We-Dance

https://www.discogs.com/release/3208889-Sting-When-We-
Dance


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Posted: 14 July 2024 at 4:38pm | IP Logged Quote EternalStatic

The remix appears to have originated with the release of Sting’s Fields of
Gold
hits collection in 1994. It was released on the U.S. version of the
album but according to Discogs, was left off of some other international
editions, which would help explain why it was used as a B-side to “When We
Dance” in some countries.
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Posted: 15 July 2024 at 3:12am | IP Logged Quote mjb50

Ah, I should have looked more closely at those "When We Dance" releases. Yep, listening/comparing for the first time now, I can say it's a unique mix, but subtle. It doesn't change any of the instruments, just changes their levels and EQ and positions somewhat. The most noticeable differences to me are that the bass line is more prominent (almost too much), and in the intro, the quiet drum beats are gone. Overall, the sound of every instrument is more "forward" and separate/defined, instead of having the album mix's pseudo-live sound where everything is somewhat smushed together in the same acoustic space.

It would have been a good single version. I always liked this song.

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Posted: 15 July 2024 at 6:22am | IP Logged Quote kaqueno

mjb50 wrote:
Ah, I should have looked more closely at
those "When We Dance" releases. Yep, listening/comparing
for the first time now, I can say it's a unique mix, but
subtle. It doesn't change any of the instruments, just
changes their levels and EQ and positions somewhat. The
most noticeable differences to me are that the bass line
is more prominent (almost too much), and in the intro,
the quiet drum beats are gone. Overall, the sound of
every instrument is more "forward" and separate/defined,
instead of having the album mix's pseudo-live sound where
everything is somewhat smushed together in the same
acoustic space.

It would have been a good single version. I always liked
this song.


thanks for your analysis mike.


I now realize, after many years, that in 1994 the
compilation Fields Of Gold: The Best Of Sting 1984 - 1994
in the US edition 1 remix by Hugh Padgham was included as
a novelty(Fortress Around Your Heart) and in the US Club
Edition 2 HP remixes (Why should I cry for you?/Fortress
Around your heart).


http://www.discogs.com/release/369156-Sting-Fields-Of-
Gold-The-Best-Of-Sting-1984-1994 - US EDITION


http://www.discogs.com/release/446425-Sting-Fields-Of-
Gold-The-Best-Of-Sting-1984-1994 - US CLUB EDITION

Edited by kaqueno on 15 July 2024 at 6:25am


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Posted: 15 July 2024 at 7:49pm | IP Logged Quote eric_a

kaqueno wrote:

I now realize, after many years, that in 1994 the
compilation Fields Of Gold: The Best Of Sting 1984 - 1994
in the US edition 1 remix by Hugh Padgham was included as
a novelty(Fortress Around Your Heart) and in the US Club
Edition 2 HP remixes (Why should I cry for you?/Fortress
Around your heart).


http://www.discogs.com/release/369156-Sting-Fields-Of-
Gold-The-Best-Of-Sting-1984-1994 - US EDITION


http://www.discogs.com/release/446425-Sting-Fields-Of-
Gold-The-Best-Of-Sting-1984-1994 - US CLUB EDITION


I see some errors on the US discogs listings for this CD. I believe there is
only one US edition, and it has 14 tracks - the one labeled here as the US
Club edition. If you look at the photos associated the US listings with 17
tracks, the CD shows only 14 tracks, or it’s the European 17-track version
(e.g., one reads BIEM). I suspect some of the discogs contributors simply
duplicated the track list from the international version without checking the
track listings.
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