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RoknRobnLoxley
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Posted: 02 March 2021 at 10:47am | IP Logged Quote RoknRobnLoxley

The "Your Hit Parade and American Top 10 Hits" 1935-1994 chart book by Bruce Elrod (4th edition 1994) is worth something in this regard, as in pop charts, not AC charts. The charts as produced for the same named radio and TV show 1935-1958 were:

-Top 15 in Apr 1935
-Top. 7 in Nov 1936
-Top 10 in Apr 1937
-Top. 9 in Aug 1943
-Top 10 in Nov 1946
-Top. 7 in Apr 1947
-Top 10 in Nov 1948
-Top. 7 in Oct 1949
-Top. 5 in Feb 1958

Then onto the Billboard Top 10 in Jun 1958, ending in May 1994. Plus lots of year-end single and album charts across pop, AC, R&B, country. Good stuff...



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Posted: 02 March 2021 at 1:03pm | IP Logged Quote jebsib

Very excited by the prospect of the 2010s Hot 100 Decade book, but it begs
the question: what on Earth are you going to do with all those weeks when
Billboard didn't publish a chart? It only prints 19 issues a year these days.
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Posted: 03 March 2021 at 4:03am | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

jebsib wrote:
Very excited by the prospect of the 2010s
Hot 100 Decade book, but it begs
the question: what on Earth are you going to do with all
those weeks when
Billboard didn't publish a chart? It only prints 19
issues a year these days.


We will be printing our own custom charts for those weeks
that Billboard didn't have a print issue.
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Posted: 03 March 2021 at 5:56pm | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

Paul, 2 questions:

* For all the weeks that there was no published Billboard Magazine (and it's been quite a few years now), have you taken note of the chart positions - because obviously when the next printed edition would come out, there could have been peaks in the previous 1 or 2 weeks that you wouldn't know about if the song dropped off the chart. If you've kept track of the charts online each week (or have a way to retrieve all the old issues now), I guess that would solve the problem.

* Also, since you're printing custom charts for those missing weeks, are you going to do the same for all the 2015-2019 charts that were in print but spread out over 3 pages? The book would be incredibly long if you used 3 pages for one chart. But since you're already doing customized 1-page Hot 100 charts for the "non-paper" issues, it seems like it would keep the book more consistent to do it for all issues (and save a lot of paper costs, and keeping the book no thicker than any of the other decade-charts books). And I'm specifically referring only to the years once they started doing the 3 page approach. Obviously, 2010 to early 2014 could be the actual chart.

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Posted: 04 March 2021 at 3:43am | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

Gordon, not sure exactly what you're asking about in the first question. We treat the non-published charts just
like any of the published charts, research-wise.

We will probably be able to cut the published charts down to 2 pages, by getting rid of the artist photos and
sidebar stories that accompany the charts nowadays. We feel it's important to show the actual published charts
(at least the actual chart part of it, anyway).
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Posted: 04 March 2021 at 10:39am | IP Logged Quote jebsib

I'm still stunned that BB doesn't have PDF charts for the non-published week
that they can email their subscribers (for consistency.). They obviously have
the templates to do so, and even have the sidebar stories (that usually
accompany Chartbeat articles online.) I guess there aren't that many chart
collectors out there anymore.

I notice that when Billboard IS published, nowadays they only include the Hot
100, Billboard 200 and Artist 100. All the genre and radio charts have been
removed (only sporadically appearing every few months).

Makes me wonder why they even bother!
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Posted: 04 March 2021 at 2:08pm | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

Because Billboard stopped publishing most of their genre and radio charts in their printed editions, I decided to my subscription end when it does in a couple months. It was the main reason I subscribed all these decades.
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Posted: 04 March 2021 at 2:27pm | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

Billboard still publishes sporadic issues because they make money off of the ad revenue (a full page ad is VERY
expensive). However, that revenue is somewhat offset by the high cost of printing, thus we only get about 20 print issues
per year. Most of their print content is "lifestyle" driven and the charts have unfortunately taken a back seat. When's
the last time you've seen an advertisement for an upcoming album and/or single? It's been years.

Most of their content is now online. It wouldn't surprise me if the print edition went totally extinct in the next few
years. Just the way of the world.
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Posted: 04 March 2021 at 3:23pm | IP Logged Quote jebsib

If the Billboard website were better, I'd be happier with the inevitable magazine
folding.

Even online premium users have to suffer lags, constantly intrusive ad pop-
ups, an almost useless chart search engine that fails more than it works and is
woefully disorganize and incomplete.

I mourn the passing of a publication filled with exciting single / album
advertisements, terrific song reviews, and most of all - no fluff pieces!
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