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ok, chendagam, the 5 different 45s from "The Stranger"
1 - "Movin' Out" on Columbia 10624
2 - "Just The Way You Are" on Columbia 10646
3 - "Movin' Out" on Columbia 10708 (re-release)
4 - "Only The Good Die Young" on Columbia 10750
5 - "She's Always A Woman" on Columbia 10788
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Are there any differences between 10624 and 10708? Does the first one lack the car engine sound and the second one have it?
I had no idea "Movin' Out" was the first single. One of the biggest albums of the '70s and the first single first bombed! How many months before "Just the Way You Are" was "Movin' Out" released, and was it before the LP was even released?
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Gordon: I have never heard a "Movin' Out" 45 with the car engine sound, but I don't have the Columbia 10624 to check against. "The Stranger" LP debuted on Billboard on 10/9/77, before the initial release of "Movin' Out", as best as I can tell. FYI, Earth, Wind & Fire's anxiously awaited 1st 45 in about a year, "Serpentine Fire" was the next sequentially released Columbia 45, 10625, and debuted on Billboard on 10/29/77. While labels don't ALWAYS release 45 exactly sequentially, it seems likely the Columbia 10624 release of "Movin' Out" was during the same week, about 3 weeks after "The Stranger" LP entered Billboard. It is strange to say this, but at this time it had been more than 3 1/2 years since the #25 hit "Piano Man", and nearly 3 years since his #34 hit, "The Entertainer." Billy Joel was VERY much a struggling Columbia artist at this time, who was VERY badly in need of a hit song. "Just The Way You Are" was just 21 numbers away, sequentially, from the initial "Movin' Out" 45 release, at Columbia 10646, and debuted just 2 weeks later than EWF, on 11/12/77. Two weeks is a highly unusual and short amount of time between an artist's 45 releases. When this does occur, it is normally done because radio would tell the Columbia label reps, who are calling us to try to get us to play the "Movin' Out" 45, something like, "You know, ___________, we're not too impressed with the "Movin' Out" 45, but WE think that the song off the album, "Just The Way You Are", is a smash! THAT should've been the single!" Billy's career was at a MAJOR crossroads here. I was still a year away from personally working in Top 40 at this point, but similar scenarios are not uncommon in the world of Top 40. Columbia seemed to quickly react, change course, and gave Top 40 the track that RADIO preferred - turned out to be his first gold single. And Billy's been a superstar artist ever since. The Columbia 10708 re-release of "Movin' Out" debuted on Billboard on 3/18/78. From the first time my local station played it, I heard them play the LP version, with the car engine sound. Personally, I always thought it was one of the best parts of the song. To this day, I have NEVER heard "Movin' Out" on the radio WITHOUT hearing the car engine SFX - in other words, the 45 version.
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Thanks Jim.
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both 45 releases of Movin' Out do not feature the car fx..
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I agree that The car engine sound is the most important part of that song. It sounds so weird without it. I'm anal about playing 45 versions on my personal radio station so I play the one without it. Why do you think radio stations played the LP version when the "rule" was usually to play the single version.
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In response to Jim's comment above, I was actually listening to an old AT40 show from 1978 and they did in fact play the single version of "Movin' Out" (without the car engine sound)!
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Brian W. wrote:
| The disc also contains the radio edit of "Tell Her About It" and the 45 versions of "My Life" and and "Just the Way You Are," all of which were on the original issue of his "Greatest Hits Vol. I & II," plus the 45 edit of "We Didn't Start the Fire" and the 4:16 radio edit of "All About Soul." |
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The cue burn on this radio station copy of the "We Didn't Start the Fire" 45 confirms two things: 1.) that Columbia's styrene 45s were just as crappy near the end of their production as they always had been, and 2.) just as I remembered, radio stations skipped over the crowd noise intro and started it where the instrumentation kicks in -- I'm surprised that didn't become the official 45 edit, rather than (or in addition to) a slight early fade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6WnWG_McjM
Edited by VWestlife on 14 February 2021 at 11:57pm
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That's a noisy start to the 45.
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VWestlife wrote:
Brian W. wrote:
The disc also contains
the radio edit of "Tell Her About It" and the 45 versions
of "My Life" and and "Just the Way You Are," all of which
were on the original issue of his "Greatest Hits Vol. I &
II," plus the 45 edit of "We Didn't Start the Fire" and
the 4:16 radio edit of "All About Soul." |
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The cue burn on this radio station copy of the "We Didn't
Start the Fire" 45 confirms two things: 1.) that
Columbia's styrene 45s were just as crappy near the end
of their production as they always had been, and 2.) just
as I remembered, radio stations skipped over the crowd
noise intro and started it where the instrumentation
kicks in -- I'm surprised that didn't become the official
45 edit, rather than (or in addition to) a slight early
fade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6WnWG_McjM
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Weren't most radio stations being serviced with promo CD
Singles by the time this song was a hit at the end of
1989? If so, they could easily cue the song to start
where the instrumentation comes in, correct? I guess
whatever station had this 45 didn't get the promo CD.
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I worked for an AM/FM combo in 1990 and the FM had been
using CD 's/CD singles since 1986 or so.
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