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I just sent a dub of my 12" to Aaron which runs approx 7:08.
What I think we might have here is different mixes between the 12" commercial copies and the 12" promo versions.
I confirmed this with a buddy of mine who was a DJ at the time and he told me that there were different mixes between the two.
Here is a youtube link to what sounds like the 12" promo version and the time of the track is 7:27. What is interesting is that the clip shows a commercial copy of the 12" and if you look at the listed time, it says 7:08 which is in line with my findings about commercial copies.
Thoughts?
If anyone wants a copy of my 12", send me a PM.
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Ooops...Here is the youtube link that I was referring to in my previous post:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQIMn8sDSvo
Here is a copy of what my 12" sounds like which looks like it is being played from a commercial copy since the label is silver.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMphwkxA4ro
Edited by Fetta on 09 January 2014 at 6:41pm
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crapfromthepast wrote:
My notes say: Taken from RSO 12" #RSS 300, copyright 1978, printed time 7:08, actual time 7:26, vocals start at 1:10.
From my notes, I think this is a commercially-available
12" single, not a promo 12".
Hope this helps. The real 12" single is buried in the
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No need to spend time doing this, Ron. I'm sure your notes are accurate. I think it's fairly safe to conclude that at least some commercial 12" copies use the remixed version (which apparently all have catalog number RSS 300) and earlier pressings use the LP version. Now, it would be interesting to see if anyone has a 7" commercial copy with the remixed version. Since RSO changed the printed information on the label, it's certainly plausible they changed the audio at some point, too.
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Been meaning to post this for ages, I just forgot.
Picking up where we left off in 2014, I have some additional info and I can address
Aaron's comment about the commercial 7" singles.
The entries in the database that read "45 version" should read "1st pressing 45
version"
The entries in the database that read "this is the dj 45 new special mix" should
actually read "dj 45 new special mix and 2nd pressing 45 version"
The first pressing mix is much pitched much faster and has loud reverb in the right
channel.
The second pressing mix is slower in pitch and the reverb is even between the L-R
channels.
I checked all our stock pressings in the warehouse. We have the ones that state "from
the hit ABC series Makin' It" and the later pressings that state "From the soundtrack
'Meatballs'". I bought my copy when the song was in the top 40 and it stated from
Meatballs and was the newer "special mix".
The pressings that contain the original mix have this in the deadwax: RS-916-AS-SP1
The pressings with the newer mix have this in the deadwax: RS 916 AS REV1 CP3
Not that it matters, but all our pressings with the original mix are vinyl while all
the later pressings are styrene. But from what I see on 45 cat, both pressings came
on vinyl and styrene.
My assumption is that by the time this records hit the top 5 (which took a LONG time
between March and July of '79) all copies for sale were the newer mix all stating from
the Meatballs soundtrack.
Now as for the 12" single. I never knew until this thread that there also two 12"
single pressings. I've now heard the original 12" on Youtube. The mix that is on it is
simply the full unedited version of the first pressing 45....same mix, same faster
pitch. That ran the printed time of (7:08). The 2nd pressing 12" was the one I
purchased. It has the newer mix, slower pitch and actually ran (7:27).
So each pressing of the 45 was an edit of the first or second pressing of the 12"
single.
So, based on all the above info, since stock copies were sold stating it was taken
from the Meatballs soundtrack, then I'd say that soundtrack is indeed the parent
album.
One last tidbit: I checked a vinyl dub of the soundtrack LP version. It runs 6:54 and
is an edit of the 2nd pressing 12" single version. The only edit occurs from 3:44 -
4:00 and removes a bit of the hand-clap break. Then just an early fade.
Hope that helps!
MM
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Thanks for the revelation, Mark! I kind of prefer the
original version as that's what I've had in my library for
so many years. Now, I swapped it out for the new mix. Since
it's been 42 years I really don't remember which version we
played at a small station I was at in 1979.
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Until reading this thread, I didn't know there were two different 12" mixes of "Makin' It". I only knew of the "2nd pressing mix" version. Has either 12" mix appeared on import CD? It doesn't seem they're on any US CD. And this was such a big hit, I hope the 12" versions are somewhere on CD.
If I were to buy the original (first) 12" extended mix on vinyl, does anyone know the details so I could find the right one on Discogs, ebay?
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To add to thus discussion, I own four
copies of the "Makin' It" 45, each
different in its own way. (I am not sure
why I have that many, but I do.) Based on
my findings, there appears to be overlap
between the two mixes and the change in
label text. Note Copy 3 below.
Copy 1: With "Makin' It" TV show credit.
Trail-off is RS-916-AS-SP1 (pressed by
Specialty in Pa.)
Copy 2: With "Makin' It" TV show credit.
Trail-off is RS-916-AS-CP1 (pressed by CBS
Pitman, N.J.)
Copy 3: With "Makin' It" TV show credit.
Trail-off is RS-916-REV1-AS-ALL1 (pressed
by Allied in Calif.) -- This copy came
with a picture sleeve that called David
Naughton "Star of the Hit ABC-TV Series
Makin' It"
Copy 4: With "Meatballs" soundtrack
credit. Trail-off is RS-916-REV1-AS-CP2
(pressed by CBS Pitman) -- This was my
copy I bought new in 1979.
Edited by TimNeely on 05 February 2021 at 2:46pm
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