| Author |
|
PopArchivist
MusicFan
Joined: 30 June 2018
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1524
|
| Posted: 10 September 2020 at 8:52pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
I specifically post here about the 1990 charting of this song. I'm quite aware this song has a history (in mono instead of stereo) and featured in Burger King commercials, it is almost as well known as any top 40 song out there.
Whitburn's annual says this is a repeat, but yet the CD Single contains a new mix: I Melt With You (Toke's Rock The Radio Mix)and not the original 45 version:
https://www.discogs.com/Modern-English-I-Melt-With-You-Remix es/release/7049221
This leads me to believe that the remix was what was released, not the original song. Am I wrong or was the original played on radio. Anyone remember?
https://www.discogs.com/Modern-English-I-Melt-With-You/relea se/524453
The above is also a CD promo. I did look at the cassette release and specifically says 1990 but does not elude to a different remix.
I listened to The Rock The Radio Mix and it is clearly not the original. Hopefully someone could add some insight...
PS If crapfromthepast wants to do a wonderful explanation of why a 1982-83 single was in mono and where to find it I am all ears...
Edited by PopArchivist on 10 September 2020 at 8:59pm
__________________
"I'm a pop archivist, not a chart philosopher, I seek to listen, observe and document the chart position of music."
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
crapfromthepast
MusicFan
Joined: 14 September 2006
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2241
|
| Posted: 10 September 2020 at 9:02pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Modern English rerecorded the song from scratch in 1990 for a new album on TVT Records.
It sounded close enough to the original so that it might have gotten some airplay in 1990, but it wasn't a hit by any stretch of the imagination.
This was one of the last "re-record/re-release old hits" trend from around 1987 to around 1989.
Nowadays, the airplay is 100% for the original version. The 1990 rerecording is thoroughly forgotten/ignored.
__________________
There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
MMathews
MusicFan
Joined: 18 August 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 978
|
| Posted: 10 September 2020 at 9:02pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
I'm not totally clear on your question, Richie, but I
can tell you this much. The 1990 version on TVT records
is a re-recording. I guess the band figured they got so
much airplay of the original 1983 Sire/4AD version
throughout the 80s that this time they'd re-record it
and try for a top 40 hit. So the 1990 version is not a
re-entry.
I heard the 1990 TVT version a few times on the radio
in 1990 and then never again. The world continued to
play the 1983 version ever after.
I used to own the TVT CD single but it's long gone now,
so I can't tell you which mix was played off that
single.
MM
Edit: in the time it took me to write this, Ron already
replied.
Edited by MMathews on 10 September 2020 at 9:03pm
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
PopArchivist
MusicFan
Joined: 30 June 2018
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1524
|
| Posted: 10 September 2020 at 10:38pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
MMathews wrote:
| I'm not totally clear on your question |
|
|
Well yes its a re-recording, but the Whitburn book has it as an [R] which means repeat. Yet the new recording is not a repeat. In assembling the Hot 100 of 1990, do I put the original or do I put this remix, since it appeared on a CD promo? The CD promo clearly drove sales in 1990 of this new version...
For Into The Night for instance the previous year, I put the original recording. Hope that clarifies.
__________________
"I'm a pop archivist, not a chart philosopher, I seek to listen, observe and document the chart position of music."
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
Paul Haney
MusicFan
Joined: 01 April 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1743
|
| Posted: 11 September 2020 at 3:59am | IP Logged
|
|
|
To clarify things here...the [R] symbol means re-entry of a previous song. It could be a completely different version.
In fact, there's a trivia note in Top Pop Singles that says "I Melt With You" is indeed a new version.
Since the chart showed the TVT label & number, I would use that for any 1990 Hot 100 library.
Edited by Paul Haney on 11 September 2020 at 4:02am
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
RichM921
MusicFan
Joined: 30 October 2007
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 147
|
| Posted: 11 September 2020 at 5:00am | IP Logged
|
|
|
Is this the version where the lyric changed to "It Melts With You"? I
used to hear that one occasionally.
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
Paul Haney
MusicFan
Joined: 01 April 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1743
|
| Posted: 11 September 2020 at 7:27am | IP Logged
|
|
|
RichM921 wrote:
Is this the version where the lyric changed to "It Melts With You"? I used to hear that one
occasionally. |
|
|
Yes it is.
Here's the video for the 1990 version:
I Melt With You - 1990 version
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
MMathews
MusicFan
Joined: 18 August 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 978
|
| Posted: 11 September 2020 at 8:44pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
I don't think in the 1990 version he ever says "It Melts
With You" - that would change the their original intent
of the lyrics.
If you listen close he's simply over-pronouncing the "T"
in "Melt."
In an interview the band said the song was imagined as a
couple making love while the atomic bombs are dropping
all around them...hence "I melt with you"
Kind of a mood killer if you ask me....but hey if they
have time to a last one in..... go for it.:-)
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
Paul Haney
MusicFan
Joined: 01 April 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1743
|
| Posted: 12 September 2020 at 4:53am | IP Logged
|
|
|
The lyric is "I'll stop the world and melt with you." He never actually says "I melt with you."
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
VWestlife
MusicFan
Joined: 02 April 2020
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 140
|
| Posted: 15 February 2021 at 10:49pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
FYI, the original single version of "I Melt With You" is not mono; it's very narrow stereo (just like CCR's "Bad Moon Rising" and "Proud Mary") -- unless you listen with headphones, you probably won't be able to hear any separation except during the echoey "the future's open wide" parts.
Some radio stations chose to play the album version instead, because although it's missing the background vocals, it is in full stereo and sounds better. But with modern digital processing you can also expand the single version to full stereo, as the folks at Eric Records did on "Hard to Find 45s on CD, Vol. 16":
https://www.ericrecords.com/htf_16.html
And although the 1990 re-recording was technically a bigger hit than the original, I never recall hearing it on the radio back then; I think it just inspired radio stations to start playing the original version again.
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
edtop40
MusicFan
Joined: 29 October 2004
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 4996
|
| Posted: 16 February 2021 at 4:45am | IP Logged
|
|
|
In an interview the band said the song was imagined as a
couple making love while the atomic bombs are dropping
all around them...hence "I melt with you"
Kind of a mood killer if you ask me....but hey if they
have time to a last one in..... go for it.:-)
MM, you'll remember it was the 80's and the Russian Bear
was everywhere at the time!
__________________
edtop40
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
aaronk
Admin Group
Joined: 16 January 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6513
|
| Posted: 16 February 2021 at 4:28pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
I thought Mark had obtained the stereo single mix done in 1982 for the Eric release. I was not under the impression that it's digitally extracted stereo.
__________________
Aaron Kannowski
Uptown Sound
91.9 The Peak - Classic Hip Hop
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
crapfromthepast
MusicFan
Joined: 14 September 2006
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2241
|
| Posted: 16 February 2021 at 6:00pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
That’s 100% correct, Aaron.
The 1982 45 was extremely narrow stereo, and we all assumed it was
mono. (Someone discovered this and posted in the other thread. I
don’t remember who posted this off the top of my head, though.)
__________________
There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
MMathews
MusicFan
Joined: 18 August 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 978
|
| Posted: 16 February 2021 at 8:46pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Yes Ron and Aaron are both correct. We got a digital
transfer of the song from 4AD in the UK from the master
BEFORE it was folded to almost-mono.
If you try to expand the Sire 45 master using digital
tools, the result sounds odd with phasing (I tried).
BUT, it's enough to show there was stereo info in it.
BTW, we didn't specifically ask for stereo, we only
asked they locate a first or early generation master for
the single mix. And low and behold we got the real
stereo before it was messed with. I was VERY pleased. I
think my jaw dropped.
MM
Edited by MMathews on 16 February 2021 at 8:48pm
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
EdisonLite
MusicFan
Joined: 18 October 2004
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2237
|
| Posted: 19 February 2021 at 4:57pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Wow, Mark! I knew almost all this story, except that you lucked into getting a stereo mix of the single version. I thought you asked them if there might be one, and they found it. Didn't realize you were just asking for a first generation and got a stereo one sent! Cool. I wonder why no other compilation used or asked for an early tape. It's been on a lot of comps I think.
|
| Back to Top |
|
| |
Active Topics 
Memberlist 
Search 
Help
Register 
Login
Top 40 Music on Compact Disc : Chat Board
Topic: Modern English - I Melt With You (1990)
