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edtop40
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Posted: 09 September 2009 at 2:48pm \| IP Logged

my commercial cassingle issued as warner 19595 states the version on both the sleeve and cassingle itself as the "single version" with a listed run time as 4:17 but actually runs 4:16......this cassingle info s/b added to the db....

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Posted: 10 September 2009 at 7:36am \| IP Logged

The actual vinyl 45's running time is also (4:16), the printed info on the record label is "4:17" (single version) (Warner 7-19595)

edtop40, Thank you very much for posting of lots of cassette single information.

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Posted: 10 September 2009 at 8:51am \| IP Logged

now that i'll be unemployed soon, i'll have a lot of free time to post info and hopefully re-take the mvp (most voluminous poster) award again!!!!

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Posted: 10 September 2009 at 12:55pm \| IP Logged

Oh no, Ed! Are you the latest victim of layoffs because of the economy?

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Posted: 11 September 2009 at 10:39am \| IP Logged

aaron, yup.....our firm is shutting it's doors in 2 weeks and i'll be unemployed......i'll have a lot of free time to post........i plan on reviewing every 45, cassingle and cd single that i own over the next 9 months.....so stayed tuned!!!.....i'll be okay until next summer with severence and all, but wall street is tough nowadays......i may need to change professions and do something else....

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Posted: 16 September 2009 at 7:39pm \| IP Logged

Sorry to hear that, Ed.

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Posted: 02 January 2021 at 6:42pm \| IP Logged

I have the "Single Version" on a few different
compilations. They all omit the opening "breath" before
the instruments/vocal come in and start with just the "I
don't wanna hear about it anymore" vocal/guitar. For
years, I thought that was the single version ... until I
came across Billboard Top Hits 1991, in which I heard
the "breath" for the first time. Does the cassette
single feature this opening "breath" then?

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Posted: 02 January 2021 at 8:05pm \| IP Logged

Bellenger1981 wrote:

Jason,

Are you saying the Billboard Top Hits 91 is the correct version that matches this discogs listing? I don't recall ever hearing the breath..

https://www.discogs.com/Damn-Yankees-High-Enough/release/138 37507

I listened to the 1991 Billboard Top Hits version, you are right it does start out with a breath. I can have Aaron check the CD promo above. I don't have access to cassettes. I can ask Ed to see if its on there...

The 45 does have the breath:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7NMjlwpR18

Edited by PopArchivist on 02 January 2021 at 8:25pm

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Posted: 02 January 2021 at 8:53pm \| IP Logged

Hey Rich,

You just answered my question (with that YouTube link).
Since the 45 has the "breath", then I know that it was
not exclusive to the Billboard Top Hits 1991 CD. I was
just surprised at how many CDs do not have that
"breath", making me question if the "breath" was
actually on the single.

Thank you!

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Posted: 02 January 2021 at 11:01pm \| IP Logged

I hadn't noticed before, but the single version is not just an edit but a totally unique mix.

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Posted: 03 January 2021 at 8:12am \| IP Logged

aaronk wrote:

I hadn't noticed before, but the single version is not just an edit but a totally unique mix.

So than the cd promo contains that single version, while Billboard Top Hits 1991 contains the 45 version with the opening breath?

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Posted: 03 January 2021 at 8:32am \| IP Logged

They are the same. The Single Version from the promo CD exactly
matches the version on Billboard Top Hits 1991, including the opening
breath. There seem to be just a handful of CDs that cut off the opening
breath but are the correct single mix.

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Posted: 03 January 2021 at 8:50am \| IP Logged

aaronk wrote:

That's kind of like Donna Summer's "Love To Love You Baby". I think the correct 45 version has her breathing before she starts singing, but most CD's with that
version cut it off.

I never noticed the mix differences between the Album and Single Versions of "High Enough" either. Listening to them now, it sounds like there's more echo on the
Album Version. The vocals on the Single Version sound more upfront. I also noticed that the guitar section is edited on the Single Version.

And to think that for the past 30 years, I thought the Single Version was just the Album Version with the Instrumental Intro from the Album chopped off!

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Posted: 03 January 2021 at 5:47pm \| IP Logged

Indeed. For a number of years, I thought the same thing
about "High Enough". Then, I compared them side by side,
only to realize that the "Single Version" is a different
(and superior, in my opinion) mix of the song.

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Posted: 06 January 2021 at 12:44pm \| IP Logged

The 2-track promo CD single for "High Enough" is Warner Bros. Records PRO-CD-4416 (released 1990):

1. "Single Version" - printed 4:17
2. "Album Version" - printed 4:45

I don't have the promo CD single, but I have enough info to give some mastering details.

Single version (4:16)

The following all use the same analog transfer, which is likely track 1 from the promo CD single:

Hitmakers Vol. 41 (August 24, 1990)
TuneUp Next40 #29
Razor & Tie's 2-CD Living In The 90s (1995) - omits the opening breath; avoid
Razor & Tie's 2-CD Monster Ballads (1999) - digitally identical to Living In The 90s and therefore also omits opening breath; avoid
Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1991 (2000)
Time-Life's Sounds Of The Nineties Vol. 2 1991 (2001) - digitally exactly 2 dB quieter than Billboard Top Hits 1991

All of the above sound just fine. If you need to pick one, avoid the Razor & Tie discs because they omit the opening breath.

TM Century's track no. 0005129 omits the opening breath (bad, although preferable for radio airplay), truncates the long fade, and may possibly have added noise reduction. Avoid.

Album version (4:44)

The following all use the same analog transfer, which is almost certainly the full-length Damn Yankees CD and/or track 2 from the promo CD single:

Warner Special Products' 2-CD Rock This Way (1995)
Time-Life's Guitar Rock Vol. 25 The '90s (1996)
Time-Life's Guitar Rock Vol. 27 Power Ballads (1999)
Realm's 3-CD Pedal To The Metal (2002) - digitally exactly 1 dB louder than Guitar Rock Vol. 25 The '90s
TM Century's track no. 00005939 - no added noise reduction, no early truncation of fade

All of the above sound pretty much the same, so whichever disc you have the album version on will work just fine.

Edited by crapfromthepast on 06 January 2021 at 12:45pm

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Posted: 07 January 2021 at 3:34pm \| IP Logged

my commercial cassette single does have the opening breath
on it...

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Posted: 07 January 2021 at 4:15pm \| IP Logged

Thank you, Ron and Ed!

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Posted: 07 January 2021 at 11:52pm \| IP Logged

edtop40 wrote:

my commercial cassette single does have the opening breath
on it...

Well its good we now know the correct single version on cassette and promo cd has the opening breath!

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