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edtop40 MusicFan
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Posted: 20 May 2011 at 6:28pm | IP Logged
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my commercial cassingle for the smithereens song "a girl like you" issued as enigma/capitol 44480 does not state a version or run time on the cassingle but runs 4:08 and is an edit of the full length 4:41 cd/lp version....i found the proper cassingle version on the promo cd single listed below
a girl like you (enigma/capitol dpro-79776)
1-7" edit (no listed; 4:08 actual)
2-lp version (no listed, 4:41 actual)
this info s/b added to the db....
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Posted: 28 December 2020 at 3:06pm | IP Logged
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Does anyone know if the album version can be edited down to the single version? I don't see a commercial CD with the single version...
Edited by NightAire on 01 January 2021 at 9:41pm
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Posted: 28 December 2020 at 6:51pm | IP Logged
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I have the promo with the Single Version. If interested, PM me.
I'm no editing expert, but just from having listened to both versions over the years, the Single Version does sound like it could be edited from the Album
Version. I don't know the exact points, but I know there's at least one edit towards the end of the song. I think the Single may fade earlier as well, but not sure.
Edited by thecdguy on 28 December 2020 at 6:52pm
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Posted: 01 January 2021 at 9:41pm | IP Logged
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I appreciate the offer, Dan! Thanks to John, I can now confirm that you are correct: the single version CAN be edited from the LP version. Here's how I did it, with two simple edits and an early fade:
I'm working with the LP version from the source LP/CD, "11." My track has 1.033 seconds of silence before the guitar lick starts so if your file is tighter you should subtract about a second from the numbers below.
Take out 16 beats between 3:39 and 3:47 (7.725 seconds).
This one is an easy edit on the cymbal crash of "4."
Take out 32 beats between 3:45 and 4:09 (15.53 seconds).
I think they may have edited on the downbeat where he sings "I'll" but I found it easier to find a clean edit point at the snare on the next word ("take"). That first beat is identical to my ears, but the first beat is where it falls a hair out of sync with the LP version and for purists I thought it was worth mentioning.
What remains fades to silence before the lyric "I'll say anything..." starts again at 4:09. I hear the drum fill right before it on the single, but the world "I'll" isn't on there.
Once the silence at the beginning is removed, your copy should run 4:08 just as mention in the post that started this thread. Speed differences were negligible enough to not be worth mentioning; it was so little that it was easily the difference between two analog machines.
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