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One of the local stations is playing a different version than the one on my "Valley Girl" CD, possibly longer and in true stereo. Is this remix common on CD?
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Memory recalls the band re-recorded the song around 1989 or 1990. I listened to the digitally available Pillow Lips album from 1990 and it may be the recording you heard.
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eriejwg wrote:
| Memory recalls the band re-recorded the song around 1989 or 1990. I listened to the digitally available Pillow Lips album from 1990 and it may be the recording you heard. |
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I remember buying the Sire 12 inch circa 1982 and being surprised that is was mono.
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They did re-record the song around 1990 and altered the title and lyrics to "It Melts With You."
I have no idea why they did that.
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There is a true stereo version of the original "I Melt With You", albeit unedited with a missing background vocal near the end.
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
There is a true stereo version of the original "I Melt With You", albeit unedited with a missing background vocal near the end.
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That might be what I heard.
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
| There is a true stereo version of the original "I Melt With You", albeit unedited with a missing background vocal near the end. |
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I've been told -- but do not know for a fact -- that the above is the version originally found on the LP After The Snow, and the version on Valley Girl is the original single version. To reiterate some of what's already been stated upthread, the single version reportedly has some differences in backing vocals from the album version, fades earlier, has at least one edit, and has noticeably less stereo separation (is it literally in mono?). The 1990 re-recording sounds different from either of the original versions.
At least since the early/mid '90s, when the original single version began to appear on various compilations, it has been by far the most widely available and most heavily played on the radio. There is at least one radio station in my area that often plays the rerecording on its "retro '80s" show, though.
I have no memory of either the 1982 or 1990 releases of this song from when they were new, as they were not successful on the radio formats I was listening to at the time (Top 40 in 1982-83, AOR in 1990). I first encountered the song when I began listening to a local AOR station around 1985, which somewhat oddly had the song in semi-regular rotation well into the mid/late '80s. I don't remember which version they played, but I know that when the song began to get airplay in the '90s after '80s nostalgia began to kick in, it sounded a little odd to me. Since the single version seems to have been the most widely available by that point, I'm guessing that the version I heard on that AOR station back in the '80s was the album version.
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Hi
The original import album "After The Snow" on 4AD records had the stereo version which was also longer. (it runs about 4:20 or so from memory)
The 45 version is the common 3:50 version which is mixed to mono (no reason, just for art's sake i guess) and has extra vocal overdubs. Most notably the background vocals between the lines in the 2nd verse, and the extra "stop the world" repeat in the choruses. There is also a synth that comes in earlier in the song in the 45 mix.
For U.S. release Sire used the 45 version for the album, and the 12" single.
Some re-issues of the "After The Snow" cd contain the original stereo album mix and have the 45 mix as a bonus track. Other issues are straight re-issues of the u.s. version of the album with only the 45 mix.
And then of course there's the 1990 re-rerecording for TVT records. I'm guessing they were trying for an actual top 40 entry with this new recording...ironically it stalled out on the chart almost the same place the original did back in '83.
And yet the original never needed to be a top 40 hit, it just became a classic of the era without chart status.
The 80's produced a few of those....
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MMathews wrote:
| For U.S. release Sire used the 45 version for the album, and the 12" single. |
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If the 45 version was the only version available domestically in the U.S. during the '80s, I may have to take back my comment above about that AOR station possibly playing the album version. I guess they could have been playing it off an import LP, but I doubt this station would have done something like that.
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The version on my "After the Snow" CD is the mono mix that runs 3:51 and is filled with background 'echo' vocals beginning at the second verse and going throughout the rest of the song, which is the way I remember hearing the song from back in the early 80s when it was in Valley Girl. I have the compilation "The Brat Pack Years", which includes the stereo mix, which runs 4:13 and sounds pretty empty without all those background vocals.
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The stereo mix runs 4:08 on The Right Stuff's Sedated In The Eighties (Vol. 1).
It really does sound empty once you've gotten used to the background vocals in the mono 45 version.
For the record, I have the mono 45 version on:- Rhino's Just Can't Get Enough Vol. 9 (1994)
- Razor & Tie's Everything '80s (1995, 2-CD set, sound quite close to Rhino CD but not digital clone)
- JCI's 18 Modern Rock Classics From The 80's (1996, digitally exactly 2 dB quieter than Everything '80s)
- Time-Life's Modern Rock - Dance (1999, 2-CD, digitally 0.5 dB quieter than Everything '80s before 3:04 and 2.5 dB quieter after 3:04 - this fixes the screwy levels on the 45 after the break, and is my preferred CD for this song)
- Rhino's Millennium '80s New Wave Party (1999, mastered too loud and clips a lot; avoid)
I have the rerecorded version from on a sampler called Schwartz Brothers Vol. Compact Disc Sampler Volume 5. It's in true stereo, and is still titled "I Melt With You (1990)". The sampler says that it's taken from the album Pillow Lips - TVT 2810. As rerecordings go, it could be much, much worse. Still won't give it any airplay, though...
Edited by crapfromthepast on 28 August 2009 at 7:34pm
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The hit 45 version will be released in stereo on CD in June 2016. Stay tuned for more details coming soon.
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So I wonder if this means it will be missing the various background vocals - and the extra "stop the world" repeat in the choruses, as detailed above.
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No, it's the 7" mix in true stereo, exactly as it was mixed before they decided to fold it to mono.
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So was this true stereo mix of "I Melt With You" available on CD all along, albeit import CD, and albeit 30 seconds longer (4:20)? And could that version simply have been faded 30 seconds early to get the version you're including on the upcoming Eric Records CD? In fact, is that what you did, Mark? Or was there a reason to have the original label go into the vaults to get the mix you used?
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No, the true stereo mix of the 7" mix has never been released. The longer version you mention is the LP version described above. The 7" mix was edited and remixed.
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EDIT: It was, see below.
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Was the true stereo mix of the 7" mix ever released?
Edited by NightAire on 07 December 2020 at 3:04pm
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Yes, it ended up on the Eric comp Hard To Find Vol. 16: More 80s Essentials & Beyond.
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Also Ron could you double check the "Just Can't Get Enough" version? I did a center channel cancel and got reverb and a little bit of instrumentation in stereo left over.
I have six versions, running between 3:45 and 3:53 (including silence). Four of them seem to be what I'll call "narrow," while the other two are "full stereo."
I found the narrow version on "I Want My New Wave," "Just Can't Get Enough Vol. 9," the "Valley Girl" soundtrack, and "Made In The 80s."
The full stereo versions are on "Hard To Find 45s Vol. 16 - More 80s Essentials & Beyond (Eric Records)," and an unlabeled file. (Some of these go back a ways, and this board has taught me better in the meantime about properly labeling my files!)
Interestingly the two stereo versions are two completely different takes... maybe 1982 / 1989? The "Hard To Find 45s" version starts with the guitar strum, the other starts with two drum hits before the guitar strum.
The "HTF445s" version is also significantly faster.
Finally, at about the 3 minute mark, at the breakdown with the "mmm, mmm, mmm..." vocals, getting back into the chorus, the "HTF45s" version has a quick drum roll cross the toms back into the full band, while the other has a longer, single tom, fading in beat to get back to the full band.
The "HTF45s" version sounds identical to me to the narrow version on "Just Can't Get Enough..." with the fade ending maybe 750 ms later on the stereo version.
I'm now wondering if the Hard To Find 45s Vol. 16 (released in 2016) is the release Santi was talking about. (EDIT: It was, as confirmed below and above. Thanks, Aaron and LunarLaugh!)
Edited by NightAire on 07 December 2020 at 3:06pm
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NightAire wrote:
I'm now wondering if the Hard To Find 45s Vol. 16
(released in 2016) is the release Santi was talking about.
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Is is. MMathews is Mark Matthews who mastered that
compilation.
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