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My TM Century copy runs 4:07, which makes me wonder if they faded the single version :04 early or if promo CD copies do actually run a little bit shorter. If anyone has details, will you please share?
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Aaron, the only promo CD single I own for this song (PRO-CD-3777) includes just one track, the "LP Version". And while the actual time (4:13) of this track does run :05 shorter than its listed time of (4:18), this corrected timing still runs :06 longer than your TM Century version does.
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Thanks for the additional info, Jim! I always greatly appreciate it. While we're on the subject, does anyone know what accounts for the :06 difference between the 4:18 LP version and the 4:12/4:13 single version (although every copy of the single labels it "LP version").
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Hi People,
Please don't forget that "LP Version" refers to the contemporaneously released LP 'Greatest Hits 1982-1989' and not to the 'Chicago 19' album (the single/Greatest Hits version is a remix of the 'Chicago 19' version).
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Thanks, Andy! That makes sense.
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As a supplement to the promo CD single info now in the database, commercial single copies of Chicago's "What Kind of Man Would I Be?" have an actual run time of 4:13.
Pat, you might also want to clarify for subscribers that the track listed on the promo CD single as "LP version" is actually the same as the commercial single version.
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
(the single/Greatest Hits version is a remix of the
'Chicago 19' version).
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The single also has a much shorter fade in/intro (about
3 seconds) compared to the Chicago 19 album
version (about 10 seconds).
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Is this a very rare case that the Single version found on the GH 1982-1989 is not on a CD Promo? The LP version and the GH 1982-1989 start entirely different as Dan points out.
It seems odd in 1990 that the go to version of this song can only be found on a GH comp of the time and not on a commercial CD single.
Maybe there exists another US CD Promo that just isn't in discogs.....
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PopArchivist wrote:
Is this a very rare case that the Single version found on the GH 1982-1989 is not on a CD Promo? The LP version and the GH 1982-1989 start entirely different as Dan
points out.
It seems odd in 1990 that the go to version of this song can only be found on a GH comp of the time and not on a commercial CD single.
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I'm just guessing here since I don't have the actual promo, but I think the lone promo CD Single listed on Discogs (Reprise/Full Moon PRO-CD-3777) with one track labelled as "LP Version" is
referring to the song being from the GH 1982-1989 LP, not the original Chicago 19 LP. I noticed that both versions run very close in length, which can confuse the situation even more.
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And I just noticed that there is a notation on the promo that says, "From The Reprise Album, Greatest Hits 1982-1989 (1-26080)".
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thecdguy wrote:
I'm just guessing here since I don't have the actual promo, but I think the lone promo CD Single listed on Discogs (Reprise/Full Moon PRO-CD-3777) with one track labelled as "LP Version" is
referring to the song being from the GH 1982-1989 LP, not the original Chicago 19 LP. I noticed that both versions run very close in length, which can confuse the situation even more. |
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You are probably right. Someone on Discogs mislabeled it. It wouldn't make sense to have the LP version here on a promo CD when the 1982-1989 version was the "hit" single version played on radio.
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Actually, it's not mislabled on Discogs. That's exactly the notation that appears on the label of the disc: "LP Version."
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The version on 1982-1989 is the only version I ever heard
on the radio here.
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aaronk wrote:
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Well then, that's a rare time that radio didn't play what was on the promo. I agree, all I ever heard was the single version on the GH 1982-1989.
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As it was pointed out earlier in the thread, “LP Version” refers to the Greatest Hits LP and not Chicago 19, so the version on the promo is the Greatest Hits version.
To put it another way, there is the 1988 LP version, which was released on Chicago 19 in June 1988 and is a non-hit version. Then there's the 1989 LP version, which was released on Greatest Hits 1982-1989 in November 1989 and became the hit. This version peaked in February 1990.
Edited by aaronk on 26 September 2020 at 12:07pm
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The funny thing is, it's labelled as "Remix"
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the back inlay of the GH disc, so you have to
wonder why they just didn't label it that way
on the promo and commercial singles.
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Very true, Dan. The promo CD label at least says "Remixed by Humberto Gatica," but that still doesn't make things as crystal clear as it could've been.
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Yeah, that can be confusing. But I followed it. Are there any other examples where a single (with a unique mix/edit) was released concurrently with a greatest hits album (and included on it), but the artist's previous album also contained the song - in an earlier mix. I'd guess there are a lot more examples besides this Chicago one, but I could be wrong.
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On a similar note, when did "Greatest Hits" albums start including new songs that weren't on any previous albums - but were added to the "Greastest Hits" to promote the sale of the album? I don't think it was too common in the '60s and early '70s.
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EdisonLite wrote:
Are there any other examples where
a single (with a unique mix/edit) was released
concurrently with a greatest hits album (and included
on it), but the artist's previous album also contained
the song - in an earlier mix. I'd guess there are a
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To EdisonLite:
I think "I'm Not The One" from the Cars' Greatest Hits
was a remix from a previous album that was released as
a single - just going by memory.
Does anyone out there know if my memory is accurate?
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