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There is a (3:28) to (3:36) CD length range for this, including a (:17 seconds longer than the 45 or LP) notation next to its appearance on the (3:53) "Very Best Of" CD. I just did the math - that means the 45 runs (3:36). But my commercial 45 has a listed time of (3:27), but an actual time of (3:30).
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It was Class Reunion 1978 at Jim's this early morning. :)
Love it, love it, love it.
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My dj copy of "My Angel Baby" states (3:27) and runs (3:27). Jim are you sure your commercial copy states (3:27) and runs (3:30)?
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Pat, since you asked me to double-check my findings, I am happy to stopwatch it for you a second time. Once again, my results indicate an actual time of exactly (3:30). I did specify in my earlier post that these results were for my commercial 45, for which my deadwax info is PB-11250-A-10. I did not previously time my promo 45 for this one, but I do have it. Since your last post cites promo 45 timings, I have just pulled and timed both the mono and stereo sides of my promo 45 for you. Like my commercial 45, both sides of my promo 45 indicate a listed time of (3:27). The mono side of my promo DOES actually run (3:27)(deadwax PA-11250-C-10), confirming your promo 45 timing results. But, to my shock, the stereo side of my promo 45 actually timed in at a whopping (4:12), far longer than any CD appearance, with a deadwax of PB-11250-A. Truthfully, Pat, during my "1978 timing project" last week, I had OFTEN been stumbling upon VERY minor timing differences between my stock and my promo 45 versions, which all featured different deadwax info from each other. For example, both my S Bishop-"Everybody Needs Love" stock 45, and both sides of my promo 45s, all have a listed time of (3:25). The stock 45 runs (3:31), which I reported. But the promo 45 has actual times of (3:31) mono, and (3:33) stereo, which I did not report. For G Lightfoot-"The Circle Is Small", my stock 45 and both sides of my promo 45 all show a listed time of (3:51). My commercial 45 actually runs (3:51), which I reported. But, the mono side of my promo 45 has an actual time of (3:54), while the stereo side of my promo 45 actually runs (3:49). I did not report these promo 45 findings. I thought these differences to be very minor in nature, and would serve to confuse more than help anybody, and was simply "too much information." I believe most folks who read the Board are primarily concerned about the COMMERCIAL 45's listed/actual timings, which I always try to provide, while offering up unique promo 45 details ONLY when they become fairly significant in nature. I know how "minute-detail-oriented" most of us are here, but even WE end up having to draw the line somewhere!
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Found a seriously defective version of this track on Time-Life's Body Talk - After Dark (R834-11, 1997).
It starts out OK, but the fidelity starts to deteriorate halfway through the song, and there's some serious tape drag on top of all that.
I envision the recording engineer staring dumbstruck at a big pile of tape oxide on the floor after playing this...
It's about as bad as the defective version of John Parr's "Naughty Naughty".
For a much better-sounding version, use Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 25.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 11 August 2020 at 6:01pm
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Speaking of this sort of thing, I find certain recordings, during their fades, get very muffled sounding, and I wonder why that is. It may be on the original vinyl recordings, too, but I've noticed it on CDs. What I'm hearing, as the song fades during the last 5 seconds or so, it's like someone is also dropping down the treble more and more (I suppose to hide tape hiss?) but it sounds very unnatural to me, and I wonder if anyone else has heard this on CDs and what the real reason is that this is done. I can't recall what songs exactly (although every song on the Rubinoos first album does this!)
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My thought was that it is some sort of noise reduction.
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Has anyone found that stereo promo 45 that runs 4:12 on
a CD anywhere (perhaps on an import)?
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Sorry, Santi. I only have the Have A Nice Day version.
But, to address EdisonLite's 11-year-old question, the loss of treble on the fade is exactly the hallmark of noise reduction. The real two-track mixdown tapes retain the high end even as the volume drops, until the volume level falls below the tape hiss. I try to avoid noise reduction wherever possible. Most of the Rhino, Time-Life, Warner Special Products, Razor & Tie, and Madacy CDs that we discuss here on the board don't have widespread noise reduction, which is good. It does turn up on a few clunky tracks, and we try to call attention to them in these posts.
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