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whyaduck wrote:
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| I also have been wanting to get the live B-Side of "Heaven" for a long time. I remember that it was played at least once on "American Top 40" during its chart run and that was the first time I heard it. I thought it might have been included on his "Live! Live! Live!" album, but according to Wikipedia, the version on there was recorded in 1988 in Belgium, whereas the live B-Side was recorded at the Hollywood Palladium on February 1, 1985. So I guess it's safe to assume the live B-Side version has never appeared on CD. |
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| To answer Brian's question, the only place I've seen the "B" side "Diana" on CD is on a CD 3" single. It may be on other CDs but that's the only place I've seen it. |
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Hi,
Diana appears on the 1988 Japan issued Hits On Fire Catalog: D50Y
Hits On Fire also has a live version of Heaven that to me seems like a different version than on "Live, Live, Live". On Hit's the track is 4:03 and the music stops approximately at 3:55/3:56. Live, Live, Live the track is 4:16 and the music stops around 4:06/4:07. Music starts on both versions at about :01/:02
To me they appear to be different performances. I don't know if the Hits version is the Heaven b-side or not. If links to fair usage samples are permitted to be posted here I'll be glad to do so. Just let me know which 25-30 second of the track is desired.
Hit's also contain a Live "Kid's Want To Rock" that to me seems rather different from Live,Live,Live. Again let me know about samples.
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Thanks for that information! The release date for "Hits On Fire" as per Discogs is January 21, 1988 and the "Live, Live, Live" album as per Wikipedia was recorded in Belgium on July 3 1988. So if the dates are correct, the versions of "Heaven" couldn't be the same on both discs. The Wiki page for "Hits On Fire" also has a notation of "Disc 2 features hit singles from the albums Cuts Like a Knife and Reckless, with the addition of three songs from 12" singles issued in 1985. These were not issued on CD outside Japan." I assume the 3 songs they're referring to are "Diana" and the Live Versions of "Heaven" and "Kids Wanna Rock". All 3 are on the "Bryan Adams Special Mini Album" listed on Discogs that was released in Japan in 1985. (Although the statement about "Diana" not being issued on CD outside Japan would be incorrect, as it's already been mentioned that it appears on a US 3" CD Single).
There is a video on YouTube specifically labelled as "Heaven (Live At The Palladium, Los Angeles, 1985)" that seems to match what you said about the music starting at about 2 seconds in. However, the music in the video seems to end at 3:52 with an additional 3 seconds of applause before completely fading out. Is that what you meant by the music stopping at 3:55/3:56?
Bryan Adams - Heaven (Live At The Palladium, Los Angeles, 1985)
Also, Discogs doesn't list the running times for any of the songs on "Hits On Fire". Do you know offhand if any of the songs on Disc 2 are Single Versions? I know "Somebody" and "One Night Love Affair" have Single Versions and I believe "Cuts Like A Knife" also has a shorter Single Version and an even shorter promo version. I didn't realize at first that Disc 1 is really the "Into The Fire" album. Thanks again for the info, I'll probably be ordering this compilation.
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"However, the music in the video seems to end at 3:52 with an additional 3 seconds of applause before completely fading out. Is that what you meant by the music stopping at 3:55/3:56?"
The last note extends to 3:55, applause fades until 4:02
"Somebody" and "One Night Love Affair" have Single Versions"
Both times match that of their Reckless Album counterparts.
"Cuts Like A Knife" is the LP version.
I have both the CD3 and 5" Run To You CD single, both are the same except for the size. Was the 5" for the USA market?
I also have "Diana" on the 2012 Japan Reckless SHM-CD which also includes "Christmas Time" and "Reggae Christmas". I think the SHM-CD has excellent old style CD sound, not modern and loud as one might expect from a 2012 CD, but of course sound quality is a personal preference.
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[QUOTE=whyaduck] The last note
extends to 3:55, applause fades
until 4:02 /QUOTE]
Thanks for that info. If it fades
out at 4:02, it must not be the
correct 45 version, as Aaron
mentioned earlier in the thread that
the Live B-Side runs 4:11 on the 45.
I suppose it could still be the same
performance, but maybe just faded
about 9 or 10 seconds earlier than
the 45.
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Dan, if you decide to buy that Japanese CD, would you mind sending me the file? I have a couple mint copies of the 45, and I can easily attach the ending to a good sounding CD source. The 12" single does, indeed, contain the same recording, but instead of leaving 15 seconds of audience applause, it segues into "Kids Wanna Rock" much sooner. That's the only difference between it and the B-side of the 45. It seems the Japanese CD simply fades out to the exact point where "Kids Wanna Rock" starts on the 12".
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I'll definitely let you know when I order it, Aaron. That's what I suspected, that the 12" and "Hits On Fire" versions were the same except for the segue into "Kids Wanna Rock".
Now I'm curious as to why they let the applause go longer on the 45 when in theory they could have just faded it earlier.
Edited by thecdguy on 05 August 2020 at 8:14am
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The outro applause on the 45 isn't overly long. It starts to fade a couple seconds after the last note concludes. I suppose, though, that it felt too long to leave the additional applause when seguing the two songs together.
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Very interesting! I had no idea about "Hits on Fire."
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