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Posted: 11 August 2006 at 5:05pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

the cassingle issued as a&m 1563 contains the "7 inch listen baby mix" and runs 4:03 and is a completely different mix than the full 4:25 cd/lp version......this should be noted in the db...

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Posted: 11 August 2006 at 5:59pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Ed:

Just checking to make sure... The "7 Inch Listen Baby Mix" is identical to the CD/LP version, right?
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Posted: 11 August 2006 at 6:06pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

no...it's a different mix completely and is shorter than the full cd/lp version......do you need a copy for your review??

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Posted: 12 August 2006 at 12:01pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Sure, feel free to send me a copy if you don't mind, Ed. I'll need to take time to listen more closely, but I believe the CD/LP version is the one I've always been accustomed to hearing on radio stations. Back in the early '90s, record labels issued a number of Top 40 hits on commercial single in a remixed form for some unknown reason. Often these remixes were not the versions commonly played on radio. I'm wondering if we have another case of that here with Aaron Neville's "Everybody Plays the Fool"?
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Posted: 12 August 2006 at 12:56pm | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

I believe *most* radio stations played the "7 inch Listen Baby" mix.

The original album/CD mix was quite lame (I admit, a very subjective opinion).

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Posted: 12 August 2006 at 3:03pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

For what it's worth, TM issued the "7 Inch Listen Baby Mix" on their CHR library.
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Posted: 12 August 2006 at 3:56pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

I just listened to the "7 Inch Listen Baby Mix" that Ed sent me. It turns out this is the version I've always heard played on radio, so I stand corrected. The "7 Inch Listen Baby Mix" appears on Aaron Neville's Ultimate Collection CD, but it runs longer than the cassette single version. (The database incorrectly states this CD contains the LP version, which is what threw me off. I believe the 45 version also appears in extended form on other CDs in the database as well.) The LP version originating from Neville's Warm Your Heart CD is indeed a very different mix and I've never heard it on the local airwaves.

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Posted: 12 August 2006 at 4:54pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

New discovery...

Upon closer examination, the version of "Everybody Plays the Fool" on the Ultimate Collection CD (Hip-O 314520192) cannot be edited to match the 45 version. Yes, they are both the "7 Inch Listen Baby Mix" and are both identical up until about the 2:27 mark. However, an edit occurs on the cassette single that cannot be replicated from the CD. That's because the bass line is removed on the cassingle from 2:29 to 2:39 during the verses: "It may be factual, it may be cruel. Everybody plays the fool". The bass remains intact during these same verses on the Ultimate Collection disc.

That said, the database should have a comment for the Ultimate Collection CD to the effect of: (neither the 45 nor LP version, though this is the same remix as the 45 version). I believe this is also holds true for at least two other CDs in the database:

Radio Waves of the '90s - Pop Hits (Universal Special Products 314583609)
Smokey Robinson/Aaron Neville - Winning Combinations (Universal Special Products 440068515)
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Posted: 12 August 2006 at 5:50pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

paul.....the mp3 i sent you was actually from the promo cd single and is NOT directly from the cassingle.....but i a/b'ed them and the mp3 i sent you is identical to the cassingle version.....

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Posted: 26 January 2008 at 6:30pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

According to my research, the A&M label reissued Aaron Neville's "Everybody Plays the Fool" on CD single in 1996. The disc also contains the track "Betcha By Golly Wow". Does anyone have this CD single who can verify if the correct 45 version of "Everybody Plays the Fool" is on it?

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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 10:31am | IP Logged Quote Jody Thornton

Do one of you still have an mp3 of the CD single vesrion? Sorry to revive a two year old thread. But I did want to get a hold of this version and hear it. Well, let me know at your leisure.

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Posted: 28 April 2010 at 6:55pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

Todd Ireland wrote:
According to my research, the A&M label reissued Aaron Neville's "Everybody Plays the Fool" on CD single in 1996. The disc also contains the track "Betcha By Golly Wow". Does anyone have this CD single who can verify if the correct 45 version of "Everybody Plays the Fool" is on it?
I have that CD single (the reissue), but it has the LP version of "Everybody Plays The Fool."

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Posted: 12 May 2010 at 6:12am | IP Logged Quote jimct

I don't know how I'd missed this thread previously, but here is my promo CD single info. And our station (like most others, it appears) also played the "7" Listen Baby Mix" on-air back in 1991:

-Aaron Neville-"Everybody Plays The Fool" (75021 7001 2)
1-7" Listen Baby Mix (listed 4:03; actual 4:02)
2-7" I Ain't Lyin' Mix (listed & actual 4:03)
3-7" Lovin' Eyes Mix (listed 4:26; actual 4:25)
4-LP Version (listed 4:26; actual 4:25)
5-12" I Ain't Lyin' Mix (listed 5:30; actual 5:28)

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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 8:30am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I just did a close examination of the tracks on the promo CD, thanks to Jim. It appears we have at least SIX unique mixes of this song. The five tracks on the promo CD are all different, even though some of them sound nearly identical. The mix that appears on Ultimate Collection, as Todd points out, is also slightly different than the single version and doesn't match any of the promo CD versions. Here's the rundown of the promo CD tracks:

1. This is the single version.
2. This is a short version of the 12" I Ain't Lyin' Mix. It cannot be edited from the 12" though.
3. This is very similar to the 7" Listen Baby Mix, but it has an additional bass guitar overdub throughout.
4. I agree with Andy that the LP version is pretty lame.
5. While similar to the 7" I Ain't Lyin' Mix, there are additional instrumental sections in the 12" version, and it replaces the third verse with an instrumental section.

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