Author |
|
Todd Ireland MusicFan
Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States
Online Status: Offline Posts: 4219
|
Posted: 29 September 2006 at 9:47pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
According to the database, the 45 version of Escape Club's "I'll Be There" runs approximately 4:55. Does anyone know if a shorter radio edit exists on an official DJ promo single release?
|
Back to Top |
|
|
aaronk Admin Group
Joined: 16 January 2005 Location: United States
Online Status: Online Posts: 6513
|
Posted: 30 September 2006 at 6:35am | IP Logged
|
|
|
The (4:55) version is what's included on my TM library.
|
Back to Top |
|
|
Todd Ireland MusicFan
Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States
Online Status: Offline Posts: 4219
|
Posted: 30 September 2006 at 8:17am | IP Logged
|
|
|
Thanks, Aaron. I believe the 4:55 version is what most Top 40 radio stations played, but I still wonder if the record label had ever serviced a shorter edit. Perhaps our resident radio edit expert, Jim, can furnish some light on this?
Edited by Todd Ireland on 30 September 2006 at 8:18am
|
Back to Top |
|
|
Todd Ireland MusicFan
Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States
Online Status: Offline Posts: 4219
|
Posted: 30 September 2006 at 8:18am | IP Logged
|
|
|
**duplicate post - deleted**
Edited by Todd Ireland on 30 September 2006 at 8:19am
|
Back to Top |
|
|
jimct MusicFan
Joined: 07 April 2006 Location: United States
Online Status: Offline Posts: 3906
|
Posted: 30 September 2006 at 3:02pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Todd: The (4:55) version was, in fact, the edit.
The Escape Club-"I'll Be There" (PRCD 3889-2)
1-Edit (4:55)
2-LP Version (5:45)
3-Ghost Mix (5:31)
The listed times are all within :01 of the actual times.
|
Back to Top |
|
|
Todd Ireland MusicFan
Joined: 16 October 2004 Location: United States
Online Status: Offline Posts: 4219
|
Posted: 30 September 2006 at 3:16pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Thanks, Jim! That makes one less radio edit I have to worry about tracking down. :-)
|
Back to Top |
|
|
crapfromthepast MusicFan
Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States
Online Status: Offline Posts: 2237
|
Posted: 02 February 2008 at 5:55pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
I have the "Edit" on two CDs:- Atlantic's Year In Review: 1991 (Atlantic PRCD 4338-2, 1991)
- Pump Up The Jam! - '90s Dance Hits (Realm OPCD-3601, 2002; This was a dance hit?!?)
I have the LP version on two CDs as well:- Body Talk - Always And Forever (Time-Life R834-19, 1998; mastered by Dennis Drake and the best-sounding version I've heard)
- Hot Hits Vol. 6 (a different EQ than Body Talk CD; I suspect that both are based on the Dollars And Sex CD mastering)
Here are instructions for creating the edit from the LP version (timing based on Body Talk):
Keep 0:00.0-3:24.8 of LP version.
Edit on a downbeat; if you count beat "1" as the start of the flute-like solo, then edit on beat "29".
Remove the 32 beats from 3:24.8-3:44.0.
Keep the 156 beats from 3:44.0-5:17.8.
Put a 32-beat fade from 4:58.6-5:17.8.
Your mixdown will run 4:58.5, with an edit at 3:24.8 and a 32-beat fade from 4:39-4:58.
I should point out that the edit at 3:24 is very noticeable - if you have the "edit" version on a CD, listen specifically for the edit. You'll never hear the song the same way again.
<rant>I know we don't editorialize about the songs themselves on this board, but I'd like to go on record saying that I detest this song with every fiber of my being. After listening to it for the first time in the nearly 17 years since it came out, I hate it even more. Back then, it struck me as being sappy and callously manipulative, cashing in big time on the movie "Ghost" without actually being affiliated with the movie in any way. Plus, the first single from Dollars And Sex was a terrific rocker called "Call It Poison", which stalled at the bottom rungs of the chart. This was the follow-up to "Call It Poison", and I was appalled that this became the hit while "Call It Poison" fell on deaf ears. Injustice, to me anyway. Thanks for letting me vent... :) </rant>
|
Back to Top |
|
|
eric_a MusicFan
Joined: 29 June 2005 Location: United States
Online Status: Offline Posts: 442
|
Posted: 03 June 2024 at 11:59pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Has anyone heard the version of “I’ll Be There” on the Oldies Series reissue
45 or Backtrax cassingle? It’s listed on both as 3:56. I suspect that’s
a typo, especially since the Backtrax CD is listed as 4:57, in line with the
radio edit. But stranger things have happened so wanted to throw it out to
the group.
And @Ron, we’re coming up on another 17 years since you listened to this,
so I’m sure we’d all love to hear your perspective on a fresh spin!
|
Back to Top |
|
|
NightAire MusicFan
Joined: 20 February 2010 Location: United States
Online Status: Offline Posts: 997
|
Posted: 04 June 2024 at 8:36am | IP Logged
|
|
|
Ron, if it makes you feel any better, here's what Wikipedia claims happens with this song:
Singer Trevor Steel said,
"When we were recording Dollars & Sex, our third album, everyone in the record company was on us to write a ballad as that was all that radio was playing from rock bands at the time. A friend of ours’ wife died while we were in Los Angeles recording. John had come up with some chords which he left with me one night when the rest of the band were going out partying. I wrote the lyrics and left them on a table. John says that he remembers coming in that night and “seeing them in a shaft of light”. I don’t know if that story has been exaggerated over time but that’s how it was written."
__________________ Gene Savage
http://www.BlackLightRadio.com
http://www.facebook.com/TulsaSavage
Owasso, Oklahoma USA
|
Back to Top |
|
|
crapfromthepast MusicFan
Joined: 14 September 2006 Location: United States
Online Status: Offline Posts: 2237
|
Posted: 05 June 2024 at 5:24pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
Just listened again. I still hate it, 16+ years after the last post!
(Again - just my opinion. We all like what we like, and that's cool.)
__________________ There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
|
Back to Top |
|
|
ChicagoBill MusicFan
Joined: 06 November 2019 Location: United States
Online Status: Offline Posts: 193
|
Posted: 06 June 2024 at 12:22pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
eric_a wrote:
Has anyone heard the version of “I’ll Be
There” on the Oldies Series reissue
45 or Backtrax cassingle? It’s listed on both as 3:56. I
suspect that’s
a typo, especially since the Backtrax CD is listed as 4:57,
in line with the
radio edit. But stranger things have happened so wanted to
throw it out to
the group. |
|
|
|
Back to Top |
|
|
ChicagoBill MusicFan
Joined: 06 November 2019 Location: United States
Online Status: Offline Posts: 193
|
Posted: 06 June 2024 at 12:30pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
My "I'll Be There" on the Atlantic Oldies Series, 7-84878, states 3:56, but is a typo. It's actually 4:57 exactly. It was
released on 6/6/93, 31 years ago today. My opinion is that for a piece of pop 'fluff', I like it. -Bill.
|
Back to Top |
|
|
eric_a MusicFan
Joined: 29 June 2005 Location: United States
Online Status: Offline Posts: 442
|
Posted: 06 June 2024 at 5:16pm | IP Logged
|
|
|
ChicagoBill wrote:
My "I'll Be There" on the Atlantic Oldies Series, 7-84878, states 3:56, but is a typo. |
|
|
Thanks for confirming! I realize I'm a fan too.
crapfromthepast wrote:
I still hate it, 16+ years after the last post! |
|
|
Ha! Let's loop back on this in 2041?
|
Back to Top |
|
|