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Posted: 29 September 2006 at 9:47pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

According to the database, the 45 version of Escape Club's "I'll Be There" runs approximately 4:55. Does anyone know if a shorter radio edit exists on an official DJ promo single release?
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Posted: 30 September 2006 at 6:35am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

The (4:55) version is what's included on my TM library.
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Posted: 30 September 2006 at 8:17am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Thanks, Aaron. I believe the 4:55 version is what most Top 40 radio stations played, but I still wonder if the record label had ever serviced a shorter edit. Perhaps our resident radio edit expert, Jim, can furnish some light on this?

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**duplicate post - deleted**

Edited by Todd Ireland on 30 September 2006 at 8:19am
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Posted: 30 September 2006 at 3:02pm | IP Logged Quote jimct

Todd: The (4:55) version was, in fact, the edit.

The Escape Club-"I'll Be There" (PRCD 3889-2)
1-Edit (4:55)
2-LP Version (5:45)
3-Ghost Mix (5:31)

The listed times are all within :01 of the actual times.
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Posted: 30 September 2006 at 3:16pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Thanks, Jim! That makes one less radio edit I have to worry about tracking down. :-)
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Posted: 02 February 2008 at 5:55pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

I have the "Edit" on two CDs:
  • Atlantic's Year In Review: 1991 (Atlantic PRCD 4338-2, 1991)
  • Pump Up The Jam! - '90s Dance Hits (Realm OPCD-3601, 2002; This was a dance hit?!?)
I have the LP version on two CDs as well:
  • Body Talk - Always And Forever (Time-Life R834-19, 1998; mastered by Dennis Drake and the best-sounding version I've heard)
  • Hot Hits Vol. 6 (a different EQ than Body Talk CD; I suspect that both are based on the Dollars And Sex CD mastering)
Here are instructions for creating the edit from the LP version (timing based on Body Talk):

Keep 0:00.0-3:24.8 of LP version.
Edit on a downbeat; if you count beat "1" as the start of the flute-like solo, then edit on beat "29".
Remove the 32 beats from 3:24.8-3:44.0.
Keep the 156 beats from 3:44.0-5:17.8.
Put a 32-beat fade from 4:58.6-5:17.8.

Your mixdown will run 4:58.5, with an edit at 3:24.8 and a 32-beat fade from 4:39-4:58.

I should point out that the edit at 3:24 is very noticeable - if you have the "edit" version on a CD, listen specifically for the edit. You'll never hear the song the same way again.

<rant>I know we don't editorialize about the songs themselves on this board, but I'd like to go on record saying that I detest this song with every fiber of my being. After listening to it for the first time in the nearly 17 years since it came out, I hate it even more. Back then, it struck me as being sappy and callously manipulative, cashing in big time on the movie "Ghost" without actually being affiliated with the movie in any way. Plus, the first single from Dollars And Sex was a terrific rocker called "Call It Poison", which stalled at the bottom rungs of the chart. This was the follow-up to "Call It Poison", and I was appalled that this became the hit while "Call It Poison" fell on deaf ears. Injustice, to me anyway. Thanks for letting me vent... :) </rant>
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Posted: 03 June 2024 at 11:59pm | IP Logged Quote eric_a

Has anyone heard the version of “I’ll Be There” on the Oldies Series reissue
45 or Backtrax cassingle?   It’s listed on both as 3:56. I suspect that’s
a typo, especially since the Backtrax CD is listed as 4:57, in line with the
radio edit. But stranger things have happened so wanted to throw it out to
the group.

And @Ron, we’re coming up on another 17 years since you listened to this,
so I’m sure we’d all love to hear your perspective on a fresh spin!
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Ron, if it makes you feel any better, here's what Wikipedia claims happens with this song:

Singer Trevor Steel said,

    "When we were recording Dollars & Sex, our third album, everyone in the record company was on us to write a ballad as that was all that radio was playing from rock bands at the time. A friend of ours’ wife died while we were in Los Angeles recording. John had come up with some chords which he left with me one night when the rest of the band were going out partying. I wrote the lyrics and left them on a table. John says that he remembers coming in that night and “seeing them in a shaft of light”. I don’t know if that story has been exaggerated over time but that’s how it was written."

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Posted: 05 June 2024 at 5:24pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

Just listened again. I still hate it, 16+ years after the last post!

(Again - just my opinion. We all like what we like, and that's cool.)

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Posted: 06 June 2024 at 12:22pm | IP Logged Quote ChicagoBill

eric_a wrote:
Has anyone heard the version of “I’ll Be
There” on the Oldies Series reissue
45 or Backtrax cassingle?   It’s listed on both as 3:56. I
suspect that’s
a typo, especially since the Backtrax CD is listed as 4:57,
in line with the
radio edit. But stranger things have happened so wanted to
throw it out to
the group.
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Posted: 06 June 2024 at 12:30pm | IP Logged Quote ChicagoBill

My "I'll Be There" on the Atlantic Oldies Series, 7-84878, states 3:56, but is a typo. It's actually 4:57 exactly. It was
released on 6/6/93, 31 years ago today. My opinion is that for a piece of pop 'fluff', I like it. -Bill.
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Posted: 06 June 2024 at 5:16pm | IP Logged Quote eric_a

ChicagoBill wrote:
My "I'll Be There" on the Atlantic Oldies Series, 7-84878, states 3:56, but is a typo.


Thanks for confirming! I realize I'm a fan too.

crapfromthepast wrote:
I still hate it, 16+ years after the last post!


Ha! Let's loop back on this in 2041?
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