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Gary
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Posted: 18 October 2006 at 4:09pm \| IP Logged

Has anyone made the 3:25 edit of Asia's Heat Of The Moment? Or maybe has a copy? My 45 is too scratchy.

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Posted: 07 September 2013 at 9:23pm \| IP Logged

The first disc to include "Heat Of The Moment" was the single-artist Asia album. I had the W. German target pressing, which (according to a post on the Steve Hoffman site) has the same mastering as the '80s-era US version. It's not a sonic masterpiece, but neither was the vinyl for this song. Virtually all the compilations I have use the same analog transfer as Asia:

Time-Life's 2-CD Rock Dreams (1993; digitally exactly 1.2 dB louder)
Razor & Tie's 2-CD Awesome '80s (1994)
Time-Life's Guitar Rock Vol. 13 The Early '80s (1994; digitally exactly 1.2 dB louder than Awesome '80s)
Priority's Rock Of The '80s Vol 14 (1994; has a tiny amount of extra compression)
Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 5 1982 (1994; differently EQ'd digital clone of Awesome '80s)
Warner Special Products' 2-CD Rock This Way (1995)
Madacy's Rock On 1982
(1996; digitally exactly 1.2 dB louder than Awesome '80s)
Simitar's Stud Rock Heart Breakers (1998; Remarkably, this song has noise reduction on this CD! Avoid!)
Time-Life's 2-CD Classic Soft Rock Vol. 10 Heat Of The Moment (2007)

The only other "flavor" of mastering out there is on 1990's Then And Now disc. I can't tell if it's a new analog transfer or just a processing of the mastering from Asia. It's got a tiny bit of added compression compared to Asia. There's a digital clone on Geffen's 4-CD promo set Geffen Records A Music History Of The Decade (1990; digitally exactly 0.954 dB quieter than Then And Now).

There's a version that fades about 15 seconds early on Realm's Gold And Platinum Vol. 1 (1986) - avoid.

The version on swaitek's 50-CD The A List Disc 13 (1994) has noise reduction - avoid.

The version on Realm's 3-CD Greatest Hits Of The '80s Vol. 3 (2002) is compressed/limited compared to all the others - avoid.

Overall, I think I prefer the sound on 1990's Then And Now, which should be dirt cheap nowadays. Here are instructions for creating the promo 45 editfrom the version on Then And Now:

Segment 1:
Extends from 0:00.0 to 2:00.0 in in both the promo 45 edit and the LP/commercial 45 version
This segment ends on a bass drum beat.

Remove the 16 beats of the LP/commercial 45 version from 2:00.0 to 2:06.7.

Segment 2:
Extends from 2:00.0 to 2:55.2 of the promo 45 edit
Extends from 2:06.7 to 3:01.9 of the LP/commercial 45 version
This segment begins and ends on bass drum hits.

Remove the 32 beats of the LP/commercial 45 version from 3:01.9 to 3:15.0.

Segment 3:
Extends from 2:55.2 to 3:28.3 of the promo 45 edit
Extends from 3:15.0 to 3:53.0 of the LP/commercial 45 version
This segment begins on a bass drum hit. The end of this segment is about three seconds before the true end of the fade.

I added a fade from 3:16.7 to 3:28.3 of the promo 45 edit, which corresponds to 3:36.5 to 3:48.0 of the LP/commercial 45 version. If you didn't hasten the fade, the LP/commercial 45 fade, as is, would run about three seconds longer than the promo 45 fade.

Your mixdown will run 3:28.3, with edits at 2:00.0 and 2:55.2.

Edited by crapfromthepast on 09 September 2013 at 7:21am

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Posted: 16 August 2015 at 1:40pm \| IP Logged

CrapFromThePast wrote:

There's a version that fades about 15 seconds early on
Realm's Gold And Platinum Vol. 1 (1986) - avoid.

Is it possible this is the
video length
version?

Edited by NightAire on 16 August 2015 at 2:01pm

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Posted: 16 August 2015 at 3:20pm \| IP Logged

Never realized there was a promo edit for this. Tried to
recreate it = am confused.

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Posted: 17 August 2015 at 11:07am \| IP Logged

John (Yah Shure) was kind enough to send me a copy of
the short mono side of the DJ 45 to assist me in
creating a stereo DJ edit. Ron's instructions were
perfect. As always, it helps to have a source file to
use as a guide.

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Posted: 17 August 2015 at 11:22am \| IP Logged

NightAire wrote:

CrapFromThePast wrote:

There's a version that fades about 15 seconds early on
Realm's Gold And Platinum Vol. 1 (1986) - avoid.

Is it possible this is the
video length
version?

Possible, but more likely is that the mastering engineer at Realm faded early - there are a bunch of early fades on the first three Gold And Platinum volumes, released in 1986 and 1987.

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Posted: 17 August 2015 at 4:56pm \| IP Logged

I found the video online and can't tell if it's the
promo edit or the LP version faded early or a custom
edit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDpPoytXVvo

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Posted: 17 August 2015 at 4:58pm \| IP Logged

Pretty sure its the LP version faded early.

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Posted: 29 September 2018 at 12:31am \| IP Logged

eriejwg wrote:

Pretty sure its the LP version faded early.

It is not an early fade, but a custom edit for the video. Sections 2:39 to 2:52
have been removed, basically cutting the final chorus in half.

It's weird that for the radio edit, they cut out the first part of the outro rather
than the second. As the full version appeared on the commercial 45(was 3:53
really that long?) it was glaringly obvious that Steve Howe didn't start at the
top for his solo.

Edited by radiofan16 on 29 September 2018 at 12:45am

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Posted: 29 September 2018 at 12:47am \| IP Logged

NightAire wrote:

CrapFromThePast wrote:

There's a version that fades about 15 seconds early on
Realm's Gold And Platinum Vol. 1 (1986) - avoid.

Is it possible this is the
video length
version?

Doubtful.

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Posted: 04 September 2019 at 12:30pm \| IP Logged

And now I find myself in '82...

I revisited this song today, because I've had a question in the back of my mind. Why, in 1982, would the record label put the "Edit" *only* on the mono side of the promo 45? Just about every other promo 45 from this time period was either short/long (stereo both sides) or stereo/mono (same length on both sides). It was unusual that one side had the full-length version in stereo and the short version in mono. If we were talking about a hit from 1972, it would make more sense.

So, I compared a fold-down of the stereo to the mono, and I discovered that the mono side is actually a dedicated mix. The differences are subtle, but there are some obvious giveaways. For one, the vocal is louder on the fold-down. Two, during the instrumental breakdown/bridge, there is an electric guitar lick in between the keyboard melodies. On the fold-down, the guitar lick is quite buried in the mix, but on the mono mix it's brought forward.

Well, there ya have it. If you truly want the short promo version, it has to be dubbed from the promo 45. Otherwise, a stereo version matching the edit points of the mono side comes pretty close.

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Posted: 06 September 2019 at 12:21am \| IP Logged

Wow, with all that effort, it makes me wonder why the label didn't put the promo edit (with new mix) out in stereo.

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Posted: 06 September 2019 at 2:20pm \| IP Logged

aaronk,

That mono short edit side on the promo was likely done for
AM airplay reasons, as AM Top 40 stations were still very
numerous in the USA. I agree the promo should have had
this edit too on the Stereo side, as there were many FM
Top 40 stations as well.

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Posted: 07 September 2019 at 5:16am \| IP Logged

KentT wrote:

That mono short edit side on the promo was
likely done for AM airplay reasons, as AM Top 40 stations
were still very numerous in the USA. I agree the promo
should have had this edit too on the Stereo side, as
there were many FM Top 40 stations as well.

I wouldn't go so far as to say AM Top 40 stations were
"very numerous" in 1982, but there were still a few left
(I worked at one of them). We usually (but not always)
played the edits.
A lot of the FM Top 40s of the era played the longer
versions, in part to differentiate themselves from their
AM counterparts, though that policy changed as the 80s
progressed, and the few remaining AM CHRs changed format.

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