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Posted: 04 November 2006 at 8:40am | IP Logged Quote edtop40
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the version of the song "that was yesterday" by foreigner from the cd complete greatest hits fades in about 0:03 later and is NOT the same as the other 3:47 versions in the db.....this should be noted in the db.....

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Posted: 04 November 2006 at 9:12am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
Ed:

Are there any other differences in the song on the Complete Greatest Hits CD besides the later fade-in?
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Posted: 04 November 2006 at 9:42am | IP Logged Quote edtop40
no, i don't believe so.....the song starts with a very faint fade in and they just truncated the intro, i believe

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Posted: 04 November 2006 at 11:38am | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey
The 45 (at least the dj copy) has the shorter introduction so I have modifed the entries in the data base to reflect this.
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Posted: 04 November 2006 at 3:07pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
Ed:

Does your commercial vinyl 45 copy have the shortened intro as well?
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Posted: 05 November 2006 at 12:47am | IP Logged Quote edtop40
yes...that's what i mean/meant by a shorter intro...that cd fades in much later than the other cd versions.....

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Posted: 05 November 2006 at 12:49am | IP Logged Quote edtop40
pat...you should re-do the discription.....all the 3:47 cds have the correct version.....the 3:44 version fades in 0:03 later.....that's it.....

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Posted: 05 November 2006 at 7:39am | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey
But Ed, that (3:44) version is the 45 version.
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Posted: 05 November 2006 at 9:17am | IP Logged Quote edtop40
NO...the 3:47 version is the 45 version....the 3:44 is faded in 0:03 shorter......the actual 45 version fades out at the 3:46 while the cd versions is a hard ending....but, either way the 3:44 is 0:03 short of the 45 version....

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Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:34pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40
does anyone know if any of the cd's contain the proper single version...after re-reviewing this track, the version from "very best...and beyond" contains some music from the previous song.....but the 45 doesn't have this....

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Posted: 31 December 2008 at 6:40am | IP Logged Quote abagon
This U.S. commercial 45 version is different from the LP version clearly. Especially, I'm able to understand that only the 45 version has the "now" voice of the strong echo with delay at (2:30)! We can at least hear the "now" voice of three on the 45 version. But the LP version has one time only. The actual U.S. 45 running time is (3:45), also the listed time is "3:45" (Atlantic 7-89571). However, my stock LP is a Japanese product. Could anyone compare the 45 with the U.S. LP?

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Posted: 02 January 2009 at 10:34pm | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey
Abagon you have really come up with a good catch here. The vinyl US LP "Agent Provocateur" which is the parent album for "That Was Yesterday" does not have the echo on the word "now" which you mentioned above. The orginal cd pressing of "Agent Provocateur" Atlantic 81999 also does not have the echo on the word "now" but the remastered edition, Atlantic 89999 does have the echo! The US 45 (at least the dj copy) does feature the echo so I assume the commercial copy does also. I have updated the database to reflect these new findings.

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Posted: 02 January 2009 at 10:40pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
Wow! Nice catch indeed, abagon!

And, Pat, abagon does mention in his post that the U.S. commercial 45 contains the echo.
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The echo on "now" also appears in the 12" Extended Version. I wonder if there are any other mix similarities between the two.
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Posted: 03 January 2009 at 7:27am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
It really doesn't make sense as to why someone at Atlantic took the trouble to go back and add echo to only one word. At any rate, it appears the 45 version has become the "go-to" version on CD releases since the initial pressing of Agent Provacateur. (I'm glad I decided to hold on to that pressing. I've toyed with selling it a number of times over the years!)
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Posted: 04 January 2009 at 12:44am | IP Logged Quote abagon
I'm so glad to get the responses. Thank you, Pat and Todd! I'll keep up to find the version differences.

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As mentioned, the 45 version has a delay-type echo on the vocal "now" at 2:30; the LP version does not.

Also:

The LP version has a sudden jump in reverb on the second half of the vocal "day" at ~0:40; the 45 mix does not.

In the 45 mix, the synthesized white-noise splash sounds that repeat during the chorus are panned left and have a delayed echo on the right, creating a 4-note
pattern (though it sounds like 3 because the last part is quiet). On the LP version, this sound is mostly centered and there's no delay echo, so it's only a
2-note pattern.

Crash cymbals in the LP version are relatively quiet. They're plainly audible in the 45 mix. Listen for them at the beginning of each chorus and at the end of
the song.


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Any estimates on how many top 40 stations at the time cued past the fade-in to start the song? Feels like I remember my local top 40 doing that (but they did that kind of thing a lot).

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Posted: 03 January 2023 at 9:18pm | IP Logged Quote 995wlol
NightAire wrote:
Any estimates on how many top 40 stations at the time cued past the fade-in to start the song? Feels like I remember my local top 40 doing that (but they did that kind of thing a lot).


FWIW, I have a WLOL-FM (Minneapolis) aircheck from May '85 that includes the intro.
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Posted: 04 January 2023 at 3:25am | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney
IIRC, I almost always heard the intro on the Top 40
stations that I listened to at the time.
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