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Posted: 05 November 2006 at 12:57pm | IP Logged Quote budaniel

The "remix" of Sledgehammer on "I Want My 80s Box" has the drum march end that was unique to the video version of the song (and one of the 12" remixes). Although there are no CDs that feature the 7" version, is it possible that the 7" mix was the same as the video mix, only shorter? Does anyone have the 7" who could detect if it is a remix of just an edit of the LP version?

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the 7" version is the same as the version from the cd "so" except faded to the 4:58 mark....the remix versions are NOT the same as the 45 version....

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Posted: 06 November 2006 at 12:43am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

If the version on I Want My 80s Box is the same one found on Shaking The Tree (Peter Gabriel's best of compilation), then it is close to, but not exactly like, the video version. I always thought it was, but upon careful examination, I found the following to be true about the video version:

- The instrumental section right before the part where he sings "I kick the habit" has a couple additional keyboard notes in the video version.

- The ending drums on the video fade out exactly as the remixed version on the 12" single does. The version on the Shaking The Tree has a cold ending where the last drum has a reverb effect added to it.

Does anyone know if there is a Peter Gabriel DVD with a good sounding copy of the actual video? Also, is the 12" extended remix available on CD anywhere? I've never been able to locate it.
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Posted: 06 November 2006 at 5:18pm | IP Logged Quote elcoleccionista

aaronk wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a Peter Gabriel DVD with a good sounding copy of the actual video?


Aaron, I think the closest you will get to that is the video as featured on his 2004 released "Play-The Videos" DVD compilation.

The original audio is unfortunately Dolby Digital 2.0 as opposed to PCM, but still sounds very good.

Then you have two additional audio tracks (DTS 96/24 and DD 5.1) which make the affore mentioned track pale, but that is (fortunately for some, unfortunately for others) a previously unreleased remix of the song.

All videos were remixed for 5.1 surround by Daniel Lanois and Richard Chappell especially for this DVD.

If you want, let me know and I can extract the original audio version for you.
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Posted: 20 May 2011 at 9:08am | IP Logged Quote edtop40

the 7" version is the same as the version from the cd "so" except faded to the 4:58 mark....the remix versions are NOT the same as the 45 version....

i need to amend my comments as listed above....the vinyl 45 actually runs 5:00 and NOT 4:58 as listed on the label....this amended info s/b added to the db...my original post was inaccurate...

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Just compared my commercial 45 (printed 4:58, actual 5:00) with the version on So.

As noted a few times above, the 45 (no designation on the record label) is an early fade of the album.

To recreate the 45 early fade, put a 24-beat fade from 4:47 to 5:02, starting at the downbeat at the end of the big drum fill.

Comparing the 45 and LP fades, they start in the same place and have pretty much the same shape, but the LP version has a gigantic tail and continues quite a while at a very low volume.

FYI, both the 45 and the album version on So run at 96.4 BPM throughout.

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The 7'' version of Sledgehammer can be found on this cd
single:
https://www.discogs.com/Peter-Gabriel-Blood-Of-
Eden/release/1870212

The actual timing is 5:01 even if it's listed as 4:53 on the back cover.

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I've always preferred the promo single version that runs
4:02. It's the go-to version in my library.

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Posted: 15 January 2020 at 6:00am | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

eriejwg wrote:
I've always preferred the promo single
version that runs 4:02. It's the go-to version in my
library.


Same here. Also, it's the only one I hear on the radio
these days.
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I'd be surprised if you were hearing the actual promo edit. The stations here play the botched TM Century edit.

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Posted: 15 January 2020 at 10:21am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

In my DJ library, it's the actual edit. But, I
agree, probably the botched edit on the radio.

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Posted: 15 January 2020 at 11:05am | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

aaronk wrote:
I'd be surprised if you were hearing the
actual promo edit. The stations here play the
botched TM Century edit.


What does the botched edit sound like???
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The intro is crossfaded between the instrumental opening and the first
verse.

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Posted: 16 January 2020 at 4:52am | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

aaronk wrote:
The intro is crossfaded between the
instrumental opening and the first
verse.


Thanks! I'll have to listen more closely next time it
comes on the radio.
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