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Both my commercial and promo 45s for this one have a listed time of (2:58), but an actual time of (3:16). The most noticable (and possibly ONLY) difference between the 45 and LP Versions exist right at the start: Eight opening drum hits start the LP version; just four opening drum hits start the 45 version.
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I have a 45 of this (All Platinum 2330, inner ring # AP214NO-) that has eight drum hits
at the beginning. I can't be precise about the time, as I don't trust my turntable, but
after synching it up with the version on Rhino's Didn't It Blow Your Mind - Soul Hits of
the '70s vol. 6 the time is approximately 3:16-3:18. My question is, what IS the
difference between the 45 and LP versions?
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Paul, your report of an "8-drum-hits intro" 45 for this song is a stunner to me; I appreciate your new info. A personal fave of mine since it was a current, I always heard the "4-drum-hits" intro version on the radio in late '71. I am now 99.9% sure that the "4 vs 8 drum hits" is the only difference between the 2 versions. To me, those initial drum hits are so quick that I believe the 4-drum hit intro version runs (3:16), while the 8-drum hit version runs (3:18).
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Ironically, there is a 45 for sale on eBay right now, complete with sound sample and 8 drum beats on the intro...
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I'll have to check my copy of this.
This is a song that got zero local airplay in the Boston/southern N.H. markets (as well as other northern New England stations influenced by them). The only reason I can think of is that in late '71/early '72 Boston's 2 Top 40 stations, WMEX & WRKO were going thru a phase where they were each trying to "out-AOR" each other, the result being a lot of pop/soul stuff fell by the wayside.
The only place I ever heard this song was on WRKO's FM station, WROR which ran a syndicated Drake format.
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My U.S. commercial 45 has the same inner ring info as PaulEschen's, AP214NO-, but I count only four drum hits (with the volume fading in) before the vocals start.
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eriejwg wrote:
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John, thanks to your eagle eyes/ears, I just picked up that alleged 8-drum-hit 45 on eBay - glad to now own both commercial 45 versions!
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No problem, Jim!
Now, to recreate the 4 beat intro, just trim off the first 4 beats?? Anyone?
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My commercial 45 matches Paul's: 8 drumbeat intro, matrix # AP214NO-
All Platinum used El Cheapo plastic for their 45s. This one's a cracklefest from the get-go.
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I recently received the copy of the "8-drum-hit" intro 45 that John G. was kind enough to spot on eBay. (And John P., you're right about the "crackle-fest!") Sometimes the deadwax info can contain the exact same numbers/letters, but a different spacing/font for the written info can provide a tip that indicates a different pressing run. That is the case here. My "4-drum-hit" 45 intro shows deadwax as a single string of characters, "AP214NO-". My "8-drum-hit" 45 intro shows these same deadwax characters to be a little bit more broken up, appearing more like "AP 214 N O-". Short of listening to the actual 45s, this is the best I can do to provide a distinction between the shorter/longer intro 45 versions, just by eyeballing the vinyl.
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All Platinum and Motown must have used the same lousy vinyl for singles. Cracklefest indeed.
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Right now, the database states the following general comment for Donnie Elbert's "Where Did Our Love Go":
(the actual 45 running time is (3:16) not (2:58) as stated on the record label; some 45's are pressed with a 4 beat introcution and others with 8 beats; all LP's were pressed with the 8 beat introduction)
The 45 containing the 8 beat intro is a couple of seconds longer. So if I may make a suggestion for a more complete and fully accurate comment, perhaps it could be slightly revised to read something like:
(there are two pressings of this 45, all of which incorrectly state a time of 2:58 on the record label - some pressings contain a 4 beat introduction and actually run 3:16, while others contain an 8 beat intro and actually run 3:18; all LPs were pressed with the 8 beat introduction and run 3:18)
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