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My commercial 45, which is stereo, has a listed time of (3:30), but an actual time of (3:37).
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Pat:
I see you've updated the database for "Love's Theme" with Jim's 45 run time information. However, all CDs currently showing the "45 version" comment run 3:32-3:33, except on the Instrumental Gold CD (Good Music Record Co. 127225), which runs 3:38. I point this out because the database comment for the latter disc specifies: (45 version but slower), yet it runs much closer to the actual 3:37 45 run time than do all the 3:32-3:33 CDs that simply state: (45 version). This doesn't quite make sense to me and I was wondering if we could get some clarification on this. Thanks!
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My original commercial 45, which is the edited version, runs exactly 3:32.
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The Hits Man wrote:
| My original commercial 45, which is the edited version, runs exactly 3:32. |
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Based on Grant's new report above, which states a :05 difference from the actual timing in my opening post, I just pulled out and re-timed my commercial 45. Again, my initial timing results were found: a listed time of (3:30), and an actual time of (3:37). For both of my commercial 45 copies, the deadwax info is "M-2069-AS". Now curious, I also just pulled out and timed my promo 45. It, too, has a listed time of (3:30), but an actual time of (3:37). My promo 45's deadwax is "M-2069-AS 1A". Grant, could you please provide the deadwax info for your actual (3:32) 45 version?
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Interesting... It sounds like there are two different 45 pressings. If it turns out the 45 running 3:37 is simply slower than the 45 running 3:32, then it would appear both are currently available on CD.
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jimct wrote:
| Grant, could you please provide the deadwax info for your actual (3:32) 45 version? |
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Ack! I stuffed it back in the box and put it away. I'll try to remember to pull it back out tomorrow to check.
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Sorry, Grant, and I TRULY feel your pain. I thought I was the only one that "I put it back in the box, and re-filed it already" happened to!
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I just stumbled upon a "Remember Series" reprint 45 for this, with the flip "Satin Soul". For the heck of it, I just timed this "Love's Theme" reprint, and it has a listed time of (3:30) and an actual time of (3:33). The fade clearly starts earlier on this reprint 45 than it does on either my original commercial/promo 45. My reprint deadwax is "M-TCR-6-AS-1", which is obviously a completely different, "oldies" numbering series. Grant's deadwax would certainly be closer to what appears on my original 45s, but this at least gives us further evidence of a 45 that does run shorter than (3:37). No doubt, Grant's supplying of his original 45's deadwax will be the final confirmation of this, however.
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Aw shoot! I was just weeding out some 45s a few hours ago, and ran across that 45. I forgot to pull it back out.
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An update for this song's entry on the CD called "D.J. Disco Mix Vol. 2". You wrote:
(S) (4:07) Beast 53452 D.J. Disco Mix Vol. 2 (all selections on this cd are segued together)
While this is true of virtually all other tracks on this 2CD set, this song appears to be the 4:07 album version. It's definitely NOT segued at the beginning or end. It's the last song on Disc 1, and the intro just starts with that swirling string (no beats are underneath it). And as the last song, it just fades. No weird beats at the end. As it clocks in at 4:07, which is virtually the same as the 4:08 album version, I think it would be best to list this song as "album version" on this CD.
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jimct wrote:
My promo 45's deadwax is "M-2069-AS 1A".
Grant, could you please provide the deadwax info for your
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Talk about taking my time to pull something out of a box!
My numbers on the runout groove on my commercial copy are:
M-2069-AS 1B
Edited by The Hits Man on 03 February 2014 at 1:21pm
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I chose to use the LP version on the Love Unlimited Orchestra's Best Of, which has just a little bit better sound than Barry White's All Time Greatest Hits, and starts its fade later. (Both fades end at about the same point.)
Based on Aaron's recreation of the long 45 version, I can say that the long 45 version runs at the LP speed, and seems to run a few seconds beyond the end of the LP version (if you try to recreate it).
The version on Rhino's Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vol. 13 (1991) runs about 1.7% faster than the LP speed, and is a few seconds shorter than the long 45. If this the short 45 version, then the short version runs about 1.7% faster than the LP. I didn't compared the Rhino version directly to the LP version.
The difference in the fade length is only a few seconds, and is relatively insignificant compared to the speed difference.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 25 February 2017 at 8:39pm
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Hey Ron, that file originated from Todd Ireland's collection. I've never attempted to make my own 45 version of this one.
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