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cover girls "we can't go wrong"
pat.....my commercial cassette single issued as capitol 44498 has the first track with NO description and the second track as the "edit" version.....this is incorrect.....the first version is actually the edit version running 4:25 and the second track is actually the LP version running 5:12......you may want to note this in the db......in fact, according to billboard magazine from the time, there was only a cassette single issued for the song and no other format....
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there was a promo 45 (7PRO-79867) that featured the lp version on both sides...
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cmmmbase wrote:
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Yes, I've got that one too, and the likely reason it was never listed was that is was a promo single only. Billboard usually only listed what was available commercially on their charts.
Intersting note about the Capitol promos from that time: it was in mid-1989 that Capitol starting releasing many chart singles on cassette-only, but a lot of them still had a promo-only vinyl.
Most of them are very hard to find. I've personally come across promos from artists like Queen, Billy Squier, Carole King, Paebo Bryson, Dan Seals and Sawyer Brown, just to name a few. However, there's an MC Hammer one I've been looking for for years and it seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth :(
Anyway, they're kind of neat to have. I believe Capitol did over 100 of them from '89-91 that weren't available commercially - many of them country.
In 1992, Capitol started releasing them commercially again, with the distinction "for jukeboxes only".
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We have two different promo 45s for this one:
Capitol 79867: (5:14) version on each side
Capitol 79884: Side A (4:25) / Side B (5:14)
It looks like we got almost all of those Capitol promo 45s back then, probably from a label contact. I'd say since the (4:25) was the first cut on the cassette single and one of the promo 45s has it as well, that's the "45 version".
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The "45 version" is pretty hard to find on CD. I have it on Body Talk - Once In A Lifetime (Time-Life R834-15, 1997, actual run time of 4:25), but that's not exactly a common CD. The exact title on the CD is "We Can't Go Wrong (Edit)", which is an odd thing to see on a Time-Life disc.
I also have the LP version on Rock On - 1989 (Cema Special Markets S21-18695/ROK-2-1989, 1996, actual run time of 5:13). This CD runs 0.2% faster than the Time-Life disc.
Here are instructions for creating the 45 edit from the LP version, based on times from Rock On - 1989:
Keep the first 8 beats from 0:00.0-0:06.9.
Edit on downbeat.
Remove the 16 beats from 0:06.9-0:20.3.
Keep the 9-1/2 beats from 0:20.3-0:28.4.
Edit between beats (see next step).
Remove the 8 beats from 0:28.4-0:35.1.
Edit at beginning of drum fill, which is between beats.
Keep the 98-1/2 beats from 0:35.1-1:57.2.
Edit on downbeat.
Remove the 8 beats from 1:57.2-2:03.9.
Keep the 156 beats from 2:03.9-4:14.2.
Edit on downbeat in middle of word "wrong".
Remove the 24 beats from 4:14.2-4:34.3.
Keep 4:34.3-5:16.8 (end) of LP version.
After the edits, you can optionally slow down the whole thing by 0.2%, although you really won't hear much of a difference if you don't.
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For what it's worth, I came across a promo CD single and picked it up.
DPRO-79883
1. Edit
2. LP Version
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Why was it so important that Columbia and Capitol (and others) release 45s in the 1990s ONLY for jukeboxes? To clarify, why was it so important a priority to the labels that I, "Joe Blow Jody" be not able to access a vinyl copy? After all, I always said at the time to myself that if a label won't make vinyl availability a priority - then I just won't buy. Wouldn't they rather any sale than no sale?
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Hi Jody,
I *believe* the 'FOR JUKEBOXES ONLY' designation was strictly a way that record companies could avoid paying mechanical royalties/publishing on a format that wasn't profitable (kinda like promo copies or record club issues).
Of course the 'FOR JUKEBOXES ONLY' releases were sold by one-stops and specialty record stores to anyone with no proof of Jukebox License required...
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