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Posted: 24 July 2007 at 3:13pm | IP Logged Quote jimct

My commercial 45 has a listed time of (4:04), but an actual time of (4:09).
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According to Wikipedia, the flip side of "Who Loves You" is "Who Loves You (disco version)". Has this ever appeared on CD? I see the database has a few remixes - some with "additional production" and some with "completely new production". Are either of these the "disco version" on the B-side of the 45? To me, the song was already very disco, so I'm curious to hear this (I imagine it might be on YouTube but I haven't checked yet), and I'm hoping it's on a CD somewhere.
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Posted: 25 January 2016 at 7:16am | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

I have never seen it on a CD release. I still have my original 45 with that longer version on the b-side. Like you said it is on that site:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANZfy6H9e0o

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Posted: 28 January 2016 at 7:58am | IP Logged Quote TomDiehl1

I love the b side version. If I remember
correctly, it even edited out a verse
found on the hit.

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Posted: 23 February 2018 at 7:20pm | IP Logged Quote Bill Cahill

Still haven't seen the B Side on a CD. But you can edit a super long version of the song by inserting the extra long instrumental section from the b side/disco
version into the album version. That gives you the longest unedited version of the song that you could have.

Although you have to watch the pitch differences. Timings and pitch are slightly different depending on what copy you have. Jim's timing of 4:09 is correct, if
you have a copy with the run off number of TCA-5482S-IG. But that one runs faster and has less clipping than TCA-5482S-1D, which almost gets you to 4:11, as it
is .5% slower. B sides have the same speed and clipping difference too.

And like the A side, the B side is timed incorrectly. Claims to be 5:28, but it's 5:39 or 5:40, depending if you have TCA-5483S-IG or TCA-5483S-1C.

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Posted: 26 February 2018 at 6:30pm | IP Logged Quote C J Brown

I just found another good sounding version on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3sOqch0hV0
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Posted: 29 March 2018 at 12:25pm | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

I really wish they'd put the disco remix B-side on CD.
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I'd even settle for a digital download off the master
tape.

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Posted: 04 March 2023 at 8:08pm | IP Logged Quote davidclark

I know this post began with Jim's timing info, however I've found no less than
3 YouTube posts of the song, and all run in the neighbourhood of 4:04.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGnnp5LqkPY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkU2J6iU53Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdz0h4tCVRg

Strange.

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Disc 24 of the new Snapper box set due out next month
will have both the original 45 and the Disco B side.
THE FOUR SEASONS - WHO LOVES YOU (STEREO)
1 Silver Star 06:05 1975
2 Storybook Lovers 03:43 1975
3 Harmony, Perfect Harmony 04:44 1975
4 Who Loves You 04:21 1975
5 Mystic Mr Sam 04:24 1975
6 December 1963 (Oh, What A Night) 03:34 1975
7 Slip Away 03:05 1975
8 Emily’s (Salle De Danse) 06:39 1975
BONUS TRACKS
9 Who Loves You (Unique 45 Mix) 04:04 1976
10 Brian’s Song (Stereo Instrumental) 04:08 1976
11 Who Loves You (B-Side, Disco Version) 05:44 1976
12 A Day In The Life 04:04 1976
13 We Can Work It Out (Stereo 45) 02:38 1976
14 Emily's (Salle De Danse) Alternate Mix (Edit,
Unissued) 05:30 1976
15 Golden Slumbers (Mono) - Frankie Valli (Unissued)
03:18 1976
16 And I Love Her (Mono) - Frankie Valli (Unissued) 02:00
1976
17 The Fool On The Hill (Mono) - Frankie Valli (Unissued)
03:27 1976
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Posted: 09 March 2023 at 7:47am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

I wonder why they didn't include the single remix/fade of
"December 1963" nor the single remix/edit of "Silver Star"?

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Posted: 09 March 2023 at 5:51pm | IP Logged Quote davidclark

I am not aware of a unique 45 mix for "Who Loves You". "December, 1963",
yes.

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Posted: 10 March 2023 at 6:26am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

In the U.S. the 45 of "Who Loves You" was an early fade of
the LP version; I believe it was the same mix.

The 45 of "December 1963" was a remix and early fade of the
LP version.

The 45 of "Silver Star" was a remix, edit and early fade of
the LP version.

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Posted: 10 March 2023 at 3:42pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

I have the 3:46 Silver Star remix on the Jersey Beat
collection. So, it must be available.

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Posted: 11 March 2023 at 6:14am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

eriejwg wrote:
I have the 3:46 Silver Star remix on the
Jersey Beat
collection. So, it must be available.


Hi, John

Yes, thankfully it is available on that 'Jersey Beat'
collection.

I was just implying it would have made a nice "bonus
track" on that CD for completeness' sake.

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Posted: 11 March 2023 at 7:38am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Agreed.

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Posted: 11 March 2023 at 2:20pm | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

<Disc 24 of the new Snapper box set due out next month
will have both the original 45 and the Disco B side. >

That's great news. But after recently buying their "Classic Albums Box set"
which lists for $100 and contains 18 CDs, I just checked for this new Snapper
44-CD box and it's listing for a pre-order price of $546! I don't think I want to
spend that for 1 (or a few) songs. :(
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Posted: 11 March 2023 at 2:30pm | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

I just looked at the item I discussed above on Amazon and noticed it said
this near the bottom:

Manufacturer ‏ : ‎ Madfish Records Imp
Original Release Date ‏ : ‎ 2023
Date First Available ‏ : ‎ July 18, 2022

If its release date is 2023, how can it first be available 7/18/22 (unless that
was a 44-LP version of the box set)?

The link is here:
https://www.amazon.com/Working-Our-Way-Back-
You/dp/B0B6WMZS5Y/ref=sr_1_5?
crid=WIY8MLXBJEUM&keywords=four+seasons+box+cd&qid=167856942 0
&sprefix=four+seasons+box+cd%2Caps%2C144&sr=8-5

Also, the label isn't indicated as Snapper, so I don't know if we're talking
about 2 different boxed sets coming out, but I doubt it.
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Posted: 11 March 2023 at 3:44pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

The July 2022 date was the date that Amazon first posted
the box set on their site. The original planned release
date was Dec. 2022, then that was changed to April 2023.
Amazon simply never changed the first available date.
Snapper is based in London and has various labels (Madfish
is one of their labels). Kind of like Cherry Red that uses
various labels for their releases.

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Posted: 11 March 2023 at 4:35pm | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

OK, Thanks Santi.
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