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Posted: 25 May 2005 at 12:59pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

I just got an mp3 from Edtop40 of the 45 version of Naked Eyes' "(What) in the Name of Love". It runs 3:49 and appears to be an edit of the LP version. Therefore, all of the song's CD appearances running 4:24 are likely the LP version.
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Posted: 25 May 2005 at 11:03pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

I just ran the 45 version on my editing software and the run time is actually right at 3:50, which is also the time stated on the record label.
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Posted: 14 August 2011 at 3:46pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

this 45 run time s/b added to the db....

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Posted: 30 March 2014 at 4:09pm | IP Logged Quote chendagam

Can someone spread some info on the 3:29 version on the UK "Promises, Promises" 12" single that I just picked up. Sounds like a different mix.

http://www.discogs.com/Naked-Eyes-Promises-Promises/master/1 62701

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Posted: 30 March 2014 at 6:18pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

That's a new one for me!

EMI had successfully used Jellybean to redo the intro to the first single, "Always Something There To Remind Me" (he added the drums and toned down the chimes). They had him remix "Promises Promises" for 7" and 12", to be the second single. But EMI didn't like his mixes and got Tony Mansfield to do the 7" and 12" versions. The Jellybean edits were unreleased until the Everything And More CD collection, or so I thought.

The Jellybean mixes time out at 3:44 and 6:57, the UK and original US album version is 4:28, the US 45 and later-pressing album version is 3:46, and the Tony Mansfield 12" is 6:22.

No idea what the 3:29 version is, but will be happy to compare it with the other versions I have.

Edited by crapfromthepast on 30 March 2014 at 8:26pm


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Posted: 01 April 2014 at 5:48am | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

DOH!

Ignore everything I said above - everything I wrote is
for "Promises Promises" not "(What) In The Name Of Love".

Naked Eyes originally recorded "In The Name Of Love" as a
B-side to one of their 12" singles from the first album.
That's the 3:29 version you have, and it was titled "In
The Name Of Love". The CD Everything And More
included this version.

They rerecorded it from scratch for their second album,
and retitled it "(What) In The Name Of Love". The LP
version ran about 4:28, the 45 was an edit of the LP
version and ran about 3:52.

Sorry for the detour down the wrong road...

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Posted: 01 April 2014 at 5:54am | IP Logged Quote Roscoe

Could someone post the edit instructions for the 45
version of "(What) In The Name Of Love"?
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Posted: 18 February 2017 at 7:52am | IP Logged Quote JL328

Roscoe wrote:
Could someone post the edit instructions for the 45
version of "(What) In The Name Of Love"?


If you're still looking for these instructions, I think I have them...

Starting with the 4:24 LP version from the iTunes version of Promises,
Promises: The Very Best of Naked Eyes (purchased in 2016)....

Two edits and a fade:

Delete 1:58.987 to 2:07.364 of the LP version
Delete 3:18.811 to 3:35.753 of the LP version

The file then runs longer than the 45 version, so you have to fade the result
from about 3:36 to 3:51. I'm not good with fades, so I can't tell you what
kind of fade it is. I just know the music starts to fade at 3:36 and is gone by
3:51.

Hope that helps.
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Posted: 19 February 2017 at 4:18am | IP Logged Quote Bwci Bo

Thanks JL328. I only have the LP version at this point in time, so I'll give the edit a shot later, using your instructions.
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Posted: 20 October 2020 at 3:14pm | IP Logged Quote David Pro

I found the 3:50 version of "(What)
In the Name of Love" in an import
CD. It is a 5-CD various artists
compilation from Chile titled
80's Forever Volumen 2 - 100
Clásicos Anglo del Pop y el
Rock
(EMI, 908263 2 0). Track 6
from disc 3 is the single version
of "(What) In the Name of Love"
running 3:50.

Here is the Discogs entry of that
compilation:

https://www.discogs.com/en/Various-
80s-Forever-Volumen-2-100-
Cl%C3%A1sicos-Anglo-Del-Pop-Y-El-
Rock/release/2801789
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Posted: 22 October 2020 at 10:12pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

And..... this little factoid has NOTHING to do with this
thread, but before Naked Eyes had that name they were a
new-wave group called "New Musik" and had a minor AOR
hit, but major *new wave* hit in 1980 called "Straight
Lines". In the U.S. they were on Epic records.
"Straight Lines" was played a LOT on our new wave
station (WLIR) in NY.
It is very catchy, check it out on Youtube if you wish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4KXK7egzZk

Alas, on Youtube they only have the LP version which was
the 12" extended version. The single ran about 4
minutes.

The funny thing is, it took me years to find the song
because their band name was unclear...if the DJ said
"new musik" you just assume it's new, but no band name!
I finally found it on one of those Epic new wave
samplers...they were 10" mini LPs with 2 tracks on each
side.
MM
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Posted: 23 October 2020 at 7:25am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Actually, Mark, the band you're thinking of had Tony Mansfield as one of its members (who did production work for Naked Eyes), but neither Rob nor Peter of Naked Eyes were a member of New Musik. Prior to the name change, they called themselves Neon.

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Posted: 23 October 2020 at 7:30am | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

New Musik was really catchy, but one clarification: the band featured Tony Mansfield, who would later produce the Naked Eyes albums, but didn't feature Pete Byrne or Rob Fisher from Naked Eyes. New Musik was outstanding, and most definitely worth checking out.

If you're going to sail down the rabbit hole, the two guys in Naked Eyes were in a band called Neon, along with Roland Orzabal and Curt Smith, who would later form Tears For Fears! Neon released two 45s and nothing else, but their most interesting recording was an unreleased demo called "Victims Of Fact". Amazingly, my radio show ended up as a primary source on YouTube for the song - someone posted a clip, with a very long talkup, here.

After Neon broke up in 1981, Pete and Rob formed Naked Eyes, and Roland and Curt formed a group called Graduate. Graduate released one worthwhile album in 1980. The Graduate song "Elvis Should Play Ska" grazed the bottom of the UK charts. Another Graduate song "Julie Julie" borrows quite a bit from "Star" by Stealers Wheel.

After the Graduate album, Roland and Curt reunited with Manny Elias, the drummer from Neon, to form Tears For Fears.

Footnote: After Naked Eyes, Rob Fisher would work with Simon Climie as the group Climie Fisher, who put out two worthwhile pop albums in the late '80s.

Happy digging!

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Posted: 23 October 2020 at 3:58pm | IP Logged Quote C J Brown

Kudos!!Great chatter on early 80s stuff guys. Keep it up.
Naked Eyes and Tears for Fears are a couple of my 80s
period favorites. I may search out a couple of the earlier
incarnations of each based on what you folks are saying.
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