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aaronk Admin Group
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Posted: 09 June 2005 at 1:51am | IP Logged
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I noticed in the 8th Edition, the listing for "My Prerogative" on JCI 3128 notes "highly edited" instead of a specific version. This 3:30 edit is also on Razor & Tie's "Awesome 80s" two-disc collection (CD was not sold in retail stores) and on my TM Century Gold Disc library. Would this be a DJ edit perhaps?
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aaronk Admin Group
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Posted: 18 August 2006 at 2:58pm | IP Logged
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Although it's been more than a year since I posted this question, perhaps some newcomers to the board would be able to answer it :)
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995wlol MusicFan
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I also own the disc with the "highly edited" version. I'm not sure whether it was a dj edit, but I do know I heard the same edited version on the radio in the mid-to-late 90s. I have a couple of additonal questions. First, is the 45 version simply an edit of the LP version. Secondly, can anyone confirm whether My Prerogative was released as a promo cd single in the US (in any version)?
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jimct MusicFan
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Sorry I missed this post previously. My promo CD single (CD45-17717) features two cuts:
1-My Prerogative (CHR Edit) (listed and actual time (3:32))
2-My Prerogative (no version designation specified) (listed time 4:25; actual time 4:33)
My notation for this, written back when it was a current, stated that we played "Cut 2" on-the-air back in 1989, FYI. Hopefully this clarifies things, since the "highly edited" version runs (3:29).
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Pat Downey Admin Group
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Posted: 22 May 2007 at 6:47pm | IP Logged
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I have a white label vinyl 45 dj copy that states (4:25) but actually runs (4:34) on both sides.
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aaronk Admin Group
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Thank you, Jim, for clearing up the mystery. I just checked the CHR Edit you sent me, and it matches up with the "highly edited" version listed in the database.
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Here are instructions on how to create the edited versions from the LP version.
I have the LP version on these CDs (all are 110.2 BPM):
- Rock The First Vol. 1 (Sandstone D233041-2, 1992; 4:53; mastered by Steve Hoffman and is best-sounding of the bunch)
- Ultra Mix - Dance Hits Of The '80s And '90s (Time-Life M18517, 1999; 4:51; mastered by Dennis Drake and also sounds terrific)
- Sounds Of The Eighties - 1988-1989 (Time-Life R988-30 A26302, 1995; 4:53)
The true US 45 runs 4:34 and is also 110.2 BPM, with just one edit in it at 3:22.2. It can be created by keeping 0:00.0-3:22.2 and 3:39.6-4:53.5 of the LP version, or, equivalently, removing 32 beats of the LP version from 3:22.2-3:39.6.
I assume that the true US 45 is the same as track #2 on the promo CD single, since its posted and actual times are the same as for that track.
The UK 45 is the same as track #1 on the promo CD single ("CHR Edit") and runs a teeny bit faster at 110.4 BPM. I have this version on these CDs, but all are a little muddy-sounding compared to the LP versions listed above:
- Awesome '80s (Razor & Tie OPCD-4551, 1994; 3:31)
- Now 1989 (Virgin EMI PolyGram UK 8 27077 2, 1993; 3:27)
- The Hits Album Vol. 10 (CBS Phonogram Polydor WEA Holland, 1989; 3:30)
The UK 45 is an early fade of the US 45 version. It can be created by keeping 0:00.0-3:22.2 and 3:39.6-4:53.5 of the LP version, or, equivalently, removing 32 beats of the LP version from 3:22.2-3:39.6. Finally, there is a 24-beat fade out from 3:16-3:29, so the edit from the first step actually falls during the fade-out.
I found that the difference in sound quality between the LP version (Rock The First) and the CHR Edit (Awesome '80s) is so large that I made my own edit from the Rock The First CD. This is an anomaly, though; the rest of Awesome '80s sounds superb, and overall, Awesome '80s is one of the finest-sounding US-'80s-hits collections in existence.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 18 September 2007 at 6:22am
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edtop40 MusicFan
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my commercial 45 issued as mca 53383 states a run time of 4:25 but actually runs 4:37 and is identical to the version on the below cd
(S) (4:37) MCA 012157598 New Edition - All The Number Ones (45 version)
my 45 has "mc26497e-fds3 etched in the run out groove...
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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I notice that database comments for Bobby Brown's "My Prerogative" first states that "both dj and commercial copies of this 45 run (4:32) not (4:25) as stated on the record label", but then goes on to say that "commercial copies of this 45 run (4:37) not (4:25) as stated on the record label". Were there two separate commercial 45 pressings sporting a :05 length difference, or is the initial 4:32 timing info listed in error? I don't know if Pat has a commercial 45 copy, but he claims earlier in this thread that his promo 45 has an actual run time of (4:34), not (4:25) on both sides.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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I just went back to re-read Ron's post about how to edit the LP version to match the 45 version and he does mention that his U.S. commercial 45 has a run time of 4:34, which is identical to Pat's DJ 45 length. So it looks like there were commercial 45 pressings issued in two different lengths - 4:34 and 4:37 (the latter length being what Ed reported for his copy).
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The Hits Man MusicFan
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The version on New Edition Gold runs 4:32.
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