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crapfromthepast
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The 45 version of "Control" actually turns up on a Time-Life CD: Gold And Platinum Vol. 5 (1997, and mastered by the great Dennis Drake, no less!) Since this is a relatively uncommon, and Control is a relatively common CD in comparison (which I just found for $1), I thought I'd post instructions on how to create the 45, based on the timings on Control.
Remove 0:00.0-0:40.5 of the LP version.
Edit on the downbeat at 0:40.5.
Keep 0:40.5-1:46.9 of the LP version.
Edit on the snare at 1:46.9.
Remove the 16 beats from 1:46.9-1:54.9.
Keep 1:54.9-3:39.5 of the LP version.
Edit to remove the word "woo".
Remove 3:39.5-5:19.2 of the LP version.
Edit at the scream.
Keep 5:19.2-5:54.1 (end) of the LP version.
Your mixdown will have edits at 1:06.5 and 2:51.0 and will run 3:26.0.
The LP and 45 versions run at essentially the same speed, at about 120.3 or 120.4 BPM.
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I have the 45 version on the import Design Of A Decade: 1986-1996.
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crapfromthepast wrote:
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Crapfromthepast, I'm not sure the 45 version can exactly be recreated from the LP version. To my ears, it sounds like that first note is different on the 45, like there's an extra "something," some extra sound effect, that is not on that note on LP version. Listen carefully... that first burst of sound isn't quite the same.
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I thought I did for years, too, but it's slightly different than the 45 version. It has that little "buzz" before the big crescendo at the beginning. The US single just started with that crescendo.
Edited by Brian W. on 04 December 2007 at 2:33am
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Brian W. wrote:
| I'm not sure the 45 version can exactly be recreated from the LP version. To my ears, it sounds like that first note is different on the 45, like there's an extra "something," some extra sound effect, that is not on that note on LP version. |
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I think you mentioned this in another post; however, I cannot hear any differences on the 45 copy I have. I can send my dub for your evaluation if you'd like.
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crapfromthepast
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Brian W. wrote:
| Crapfromthepast, I'm not sure the 45 version can exactly be recreated from the LP version. To my ears, it sounds like that first note is different on the 45, like there's an extra "something," some extra sound effect, that is not on that note on LP version. Listen carefully... that first burst of sound isn't quite the same. |
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I compared the two, and any differences I hear I attribute to a slightly different EQ - my 45 is mixed a little brighter than the Control CD.
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I just came across a copy of Gold And Platinum Vol. 5. Upon listening, it sure sounds to me like it was sourced from vinyl. It has an overall "scratchy" sound and I'd swear there are a few vinyl pops during the last few seconds of the song (listen at the 3:14 mark). Would anyone who owns this set agree?
Edit: I should have checked my original "Control" (the album) on CD first. The "pops" at the end are present on the LP version as well. Maybe "scratchyness" I thought I heard on the single version could just be different EQ.
Edited by 995wlol on 21 March 2009 at 12:04pm
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On an unrelated note regarding Janet Jackson's "Control", I thought it might be worth pointing out for database consideration that the 4:35 version on promo 45 copies is billed as the "Edited Video Mix".
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eriejwg wrote:
I have the 45 version on the import Design Of A Decade:
1986-1996. |
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So was it confirmed that the version on the import is the 45 version? I ask
because I own this CD as well.
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Brian said above that it wasn't the 45 version. According
to him... "I thought I did for years, too, but it's
slightly different than the 45 version. It has that little
"buzz" before the big crescendo at the beginning. The US
single just started with that crescendo."
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