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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Posted: 10 February 2008 at 12:39pm | IP Logged
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"Things That Make You Go Hmmmm...", that is.
I was all set to post the edit instructions for creating the 45 edits, when I realized that the woman singing the "things that make you go hmmmm, yeah" parts is DIFFERENT on the 45 than on LP version! It's not just a different take, it's an entirely different PERSON!
I have no doubt that this came about from Martha Wash's lawsuit against Clivilles and Cole, for completely omitting her from the album credits on the Gonna Make You Sweat album. But it's still not clear who's singing on which version... Here's what I know:
The commercial 45 is Columbia 38-73687 (1990) and is credited to C & C Music Factory Featuring Freedom Williams:
A: Things That Make You Go Hmmmm... (The Radio Mix 1) (printed 4:10, actual 4:08; includes about 2.1 seconds of faint crowd noises before the opening notes)
B: Things That Make You Go Hmmmm... (The Radio Mix 2) (printed 4:49, actual 4:47; includes about 2.5 seconds of faint crowd noises before the opening notes)
Both sides of the 45 have the credits, "Special Versions From The Columbia Records Release: 'GONNA MAKE YOU SWEAT' 47093" and "Edits from the video mix."
Apparently, the UK single was the (4:08) A-side of the 45, which turns up on Now 1991 (Virgin EMI PolyGram UK 27083, 1993; runs 4:06 and starts with the opening notes, omitting the faint crowd noises that precede it on the 45).
The album version is far more common in the US, and shows up on:- Cosmopolitan Vol. 8 (Sandstone, 1994, runs 5:24)
- Monsters Of Rap Vol. 1 (Razor & Tie, 2000; runs 5:21)
- Hot Hits Vol. 7 (1991; runs 5:22)
Can anyone else shine some light on this? Promo CD single, perhaps?
Edited by crapfromthepast on 10 August 2020 at 1:11pm
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 27 March 2008 at 10:54pm | IP Logged
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Ron, we got in two different promo CD singles for this. FYI, we played "The Radio Mix 1" on-air back in 1991:
C+C Music Factory-"Things That Make You Go Hmmmm..." (CSK 73687) (the faint opening crowd noises are included in my actual timings)
1-The Radio Mix 1 (listed & actual 4:10)
2-The Radio Mix 2 (listed 4:49; actual 4:48)
3-The LP Radio Mix (listed 4:49; actual 4:48)
4-The Clivilles & Cole Pumped Album Mix (listed & actual 5:19)
5-The Clivilles & Cole Deep House Mix (listed 5:13; actual 5:14)
6-The Clivilles & Cole Classic House Mix (listed 7:05; actual 7:07)
C+C Music Factory-"Things That Make You Go Hmmmm..." (The Remixes) (CSK 4123)
1-Radio 1 (listed 4:10; actual 4:12) (FYI, this track is NOT the same as "The Radio Mix 1", found on the other promo CD single)
2-Radio 2 (listed 4:10; actual 4:12) (same comments as for "Radio 1")
3-Hot Radio (listed 4:30; actual 4:31)
4-Club Mix (listed & actual 5:18)
5-Dub Mix (listed 5:04; actual 5:03)
Plenty of versions here for you to chew on, Ron, which I know simply thrills you to death! :)
Edited by jimct on 27 March 2008 at 10:56pm
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 25 May 2010 at 10:49pm | IP Logged
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To supplement Jim's nicely detailed promo CD single info regarding C + C Music Factory featuring Freedom Williams' "Things That Make You Go Hmmmm...", I thought I'd also pass along that the commercial cassette single has an actual run time of 4:10 and features the "Radio Mix 1". (Timing info courtesy of Edtop40.)
Edited by Todd Ireland on 26 May 2010 at 9:05am
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edtop40 MusicFan
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 6:25am | IP Logged
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todd....the version on the commercial cassingle is actually the "radio mix 1" version.....you might want to amend your post for consistancy....the cassingle version is identical to track 1 on the promo cd single issued as CSK 73687...
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 9:06am | IP Logged
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Thanks for pointing that out, Ed. I went back to my post and made the correction.
Incidentally, the commercial 45 that crapfromthepast referenced in his original post also features the "Radio Mix 1" version. Ed, does the cassette single contain the "Radio Mix 2" on the B-side like on the 45?
Edited by Todd Ireland on 26 May 2010 at 9:16am
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edtop40 MusicFan
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 11:11am | IP Logged
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i'll check tonite...
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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Posted: 26 May 2010 at 11:46am | IP Logged
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Todd Ireland wrote:
does the cassette single contain the "Radio Mix 2" on the B-side like on the 45? |
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Yes, it does.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 29 December 2010 at 12:33am | IP Logged
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Thanks for confirming my previous question, Paul. The database should probably be updated for "Things That Make You Go Hmmmm..." to indicate that the "Radio Mix 2" appears as the B-side of the cassette single and runs 4:48. (The commercial vinyl 45 also has the "Radio Mix 1" on the A-side and "Radio Mix 2" on the B-side, as Ron documented in his initial post.)
By the way, I notice there is a version of the song running 4:47 on C&C Music Factory's In the Groove CD (Sony Music Special Products 28099) which, according to the database, is a remix. Can anyone confirm if this is more specifically the "Radio Mix 2" or even the "LP Radio Mix" that appears on the promo CD single?
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Loveland MusicFan
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crapfromthepast wrote:
"Things That Make You Go Hmmmm...", that is.
It's not just a different take, it's an entirely different PERSON! |
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That's not exactly accurate. The Album Version features both Martha Wash and Zelma Davis performing backing vocals.
If you listen VERY CAREFULLY, you'll hear Martha singing 'Things that make you go hmmmm…', quickly followed by Zelma singing 'Things that make you go hmmmmm…". It appears that their lines alternate.
All mixes included on the single simply remove all of Martha's vocals and leave only Zelma's vocals.
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