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Posted: 09 May 2008 at 7:41am | IP Logged Quote abagon
(Song Title "Running time"/"Listed time")

You May Be Right 4:00/3:58
It's Still Rock And Roll To Me 2:55/2:55
Don't Ask Me Why 2:56/2:56
Sometimes A Fantasy 4:19/4:19

Say Goodbye To Hollywood 3:52/3:45
She's Got A Way 2:59/2:44

Pressure 3:15/3:15
Allentown 3:48/3:50

Tell Her About It 3:47/3:35
Uptown Girl 3:13/3:12
An Innocent Man 5:16/5:16
The Longest Time 3:34/3:32
Leave A Tender Moment Alone 3:49/3:49
Keeping The Faith 4:49/4:44

You're Only Human(Second Wind) 4:21/4:21
The Night Is Still Young 4:06/4:08 "But this is the "PROMO".

Modern Woman 3:47/3:47
A Matter Of Trust 4:07/4:08
This Is The Time 4:57/4:56

We Didn't Start The Fire 4:27/4:29 (45 source Not cassingle)
I Go To The Extremes 4:21/4:23 (45 source Not cassingle and 90's hit)

Happy Birthday! "BILLY JOEL" today (9th of May)
I build this thread for the memorial. I love the Billy's songs very much.
I provide the info of his 45s reached Top 40 on the 80's decade only. Please, Post the 70s & 90s info etc.too.
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Posted: 09 May 2008 at 8:15am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
That's a very impressive list of Billy Joel 45 run times, abagon. Thanks for providing it for us!

As for commercial single run times for Joel's '70s and '90s hits... Jim has gone through and timed nearly every Top 40 vinyl 45 that existed in the '70s and he has reported the printed and actual run times whenever there's a significant difference between them (usually :03 or more). Other folks (especially Ed) have covered commercial single run times for '90s Top 40 hits pretty thoroughly, so I'd say we now have timing info for the vast majority of Billy Joel's hits accounted for. But, hey, if anyone wants to share all of Billy Joel's actual 45 run times with us, be our guest!

Edited by Todd Ireland on 09 May 2008 at 8:29am
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Posted: 09 May 2008 at 8:45am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
One thing I caught on the list...

Abagon, you indicate a 3:34 run time for "The Longest Time" on your commercial 45. On another thread, Ed reports a 3:37 time on his 45 copy. So do we have two different pressings here?
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Posted: 09 May 2008 at 11:21pm | IP Logged Quote abagon
Thank you for your responses, Todd.

I recorded "The Longest Time"(45 and LP) into my PC from my turntable again. and I have disposed of the record noises using my software "Clean 3.0". I listened to carefully. My 45 running time is surely "3:34".
This track of my US issue LP "An Innocent Man" runs "3:36". This 45 finishes "Oh Oh Oh" at "3:34". I couldn't listen to the next "for the longest time" at megavolume with big speakers too.
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Posted: 21 June 2011 at 12:51pm | IP Logged Quote Fetta
Can the LP versions of both "You're Only Human (Second Wind)" and "The Night Is Still Young" be edited to create the 45 versions?

Does anyone know the edit points?

Thanks.

-Jeff

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Posted: 21 June 2011 at 2:57pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
Yes, they both are edits of the LP.

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Posted: 21 June 2011 at 6:35pm | IP Logged Quote Fetta
Aaron,

Do you happen to recall the edit points?

-Jeff
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Posted: 21 June 2011 at 10:19pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
I don't, but I will try to send dubs your way as soon as I have a
chance.

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Posted: 23 June 2011 at 7:40pm | IP Logged Quote Fetta
Hey Aaron,

Not to worry about these. I was able to replicate the 45s that I dubbed... Thanks again to your excellent editing teaching skills.

-Jeff
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Posted: 21 September 2011 at 2:58pm | IP Logged Quote sriv94
What is the exact edit point for "The Night Is Still Young"?

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Posted: 21 September 2011 at 11:52pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.
Thanks for the info, Fetta. I'd been trying to find that out myself.
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The single edit of "You're Only Human (Second Wind)" takes out the sax solo before the 3rd verse.

Using the original 1985 "Greatest Hits" CD, you're removing 14.6 seconds, from 2:46 to 3:00. Your endpoint comes right before the girls again sing "only human."

The trickiest part to me was getting both start and end edit points at the beginning of the synth snare drum. I prefer to edit in the middle of a beat but doing so, in this case, created a bit of a stutter effect.

Based on a YouTube video of a rip of a Japanese single, the song is still barely audible at 4:24. I hesitated to mention this because Abagon is so meticulous in timing these recordings. It is possible the U.S. pressing faded a hair earlier.

The YouTube version starts a deathly slow fade at 4 minutes in, just as Billy Joel (and one of the background singers?) scream(s).

The YouTube video also runs slightly slower than the CD version, which I'm going to suspect is the poster's error.

Based on the Japanese single, the last audible sounds are the girls at 4:23.5 singing, "whoo-hoo-hoo" and then it is gone. There MIGHT be one more barely audible snare at 4:24 but there is a turntable "thump" right as the beat would have hit so it's hard to confirm.

TL;DR -- Your CD version should remove 14 and a half seconds starting at 2:46 and run 4:24.

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Posted: 03 April 2019 at 3:02pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
My promo 45 runs an actual 4:23.7. The last thing I can hear is a barely audible "whoo hoo hoo."

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Posted: 05 April 2019 at 7:48pm | IP Logged Quote Ron S
NightAire wrote:
The single edit of "You're Only Human (Second Wind)"
takes out the sax solo before the 3rd verse.

Using the original 1985 "Greatest Hits" CD, you're removing 14.6 seconds,
from 2:46 to 3:00. Your endpoint comes right before the girls again sing
"only human."

The trickiest part to me was getting both start and end edit points at the
beginning of the synth snare drum. I prefer to edit in the middle of a beat
but doing so, in this case, created a bit of a stutter effect.

Based on a YouTube video of a
rip of a Japanese single, the song is still barely audible at 4:24. I hesitated
to mention this because Abagon is so meticulous in timing these
recordings. It is possible the U.S. pressing faded a hair earlier.

The YouTube version starts a deathly slow fade at 4 minutes in, just as Billy
Joel (and one of the background singers?) scream(s).

The YouTube video also runs slightly slower than the CD version, which I'm
going to suspect is the poster's error.

Based on the Japanese single, the last audible sounds are the girls at
4:23.5 singing, "whoo-hoo-hoo" and then it is gone. There MIGHT be one
more barely audible snare at 4:24 but there is a turntable "thump" right as
the beat would have hit so it's hard to confirm.

TL;DR -- Your CD version should remove 14 and a half seconds starting at
2:46 and run 4:24.


I edited it in the middle of the beat and got the stutter effect. Does anybody
have a clean copy of the song without the stutter effect?
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