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My commercial 45, which is mono and confirmed as Tetragrammaton 1503, has a listed time of (4:11) and an actual time of (4:13). I noticed that my friend Ed had previously posted in a "Deep Purple Top 40 Hits" thread that his 45's actual time is (4:17). I also notice that Pat has a database note for the song, stating that the 45 version starts with two wolf calls, and the LP has three, and that's what I'd always thought as well. But Pat, I've just carefully and repeatedly checked the very beginning of my 45, and it actually only has ONE wolf call at the start, not two. This probably accounts for the :04 time difference between Ed's 45 timing, and my 45 timing. My deadwax info is simply "7705", with a "D73" about two inches to the left of the 7705 number. FYI, my label features the standard, WB, late-60's 45 font, for both its block and smaller lettering, that was utilized on a good number of the Tetragrammaton 45 releases. It certainly appears to me that more than one original 1968 commercial 45 has been issued here, and any additional details that anyone else could offer here would be very appreciated.
Edited by jimct on 27 June 2008 at 8:15pm
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Great find, Jim! From three wolf calls to two, and now one... is that what "Will The Wolf Survive?" was all about? :)
My two copies are both of the two wolf night variety. The deadwax is the same as yours, except for the very tiny "DT-2" notation (and "DT-1" on the B-side, "One More Rainy Day.") Are you sure that yours says "D73" and not "DT-3"?
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Yah Shure, thanks for your post. I figured my "one wolf intro" 45 was not the most common commercial 45 version. My label looks absolutely identical to yours, and I just re-confirmed with my magnifying glass that it defintely and clearly says "D73", not "DT-3". FYI, the "One More Rainy Day" side does have the "DT-3" notation before the "7706" deadwax, for that side of my 45.
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OK, to further muddy the waters here. My copy is the "2 wolf" version, but has what looks like Jim's "D73" designation. I suppose the 7 could be a T with enough imagination, but there is no hyphen.
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My original Tetragrammaton stereo LP version of Hush has three wolf calls and runs 4:23.....
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Whoops, I need to correct myself (and add further to the mudpile.) There were no hyphens on either of my copies. I should have gotten the magnifying glass out the first time!
And my two copies aren't identical after all. One copy reads "DT 2" for "Hush" and "DT 1" for "One More Rainy Day," and the copy that was in the scanner when I originally posted has "DT 2" on both sides. Both copies are from Columbia's Terre Haute plant, and have "TIIII" on the first "Hush" side, and "TIII" on the second "Hush."
Warner's stereo reissue 45 (GWB 7654) gave us the full, 3-wolf album version. Let's hope that there was never a no-wolf version, or one with the wolves howling in multi-part harmony. :)
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jimct wrote:
| FYI, my label features the standard, WB, late-60's 45 font, for both its block and smaller lettering, that was utilized on a good number of the Tetragrammaton 45 releases. |
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Which font is that exactly? I'd like to add it to my PC collection.
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Has the 45 version with one wolf call during the intro ever appeared on CD? If not, then all CD appearances in the database with a "45 version" comment should probably be amended to read: "45 version with two wolf calls", or something to that effect.
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In reviewing this song, I was listening to a dub of the
45 (not sure if it's origination, perhaps YouTube.)
During the 2 wolf calls at the beginning of the song, in
the background, it sounds like a band member clearing
his throat.
Does anyone who has the 45 ever notice this?
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My stock 45 has two wolf calls, I hear something REALLY
LOW behind the first wolf call..maybe a cough, maybe
not, but nothing obvious or significant. I had to really
crank up the volume to hear anything at all and again,
I'm not sure it's similar to what you heard.
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I should point out that although I believe that my copy
of "Hush" is a real one, who knows.. I've come across a
lot of boots. They usually have crappier looking
Tetragrammation labels. I think my copy is real, looks
exactly like Yah Sure's copy, with the text on
everything slightly more to the right. Meaning it was
stamped onto a blank Tetragrammation label.
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Bill, I'll email you an mp3 of the dub I have so you can
give it a listen.
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Has it really come to the point where we're down to scrutinizing wolf calls, of all things? What a truly, truly sorry lot this is.
Naturally, I'm in. ;)
For the sake of comparison, here's what I hear on my original Columbia Terre Haute-pressed Tetragrammton 45s, a mid-'70s Warner Brothers Back To Back Hits reissue 45 (also pressed by CTH) and an original 1968 Monarch-pressed Tetragrammaton Shades Of Deep Purple LP my brother bought at a Pacific Northwest Bon Marché store while on vacation that summer, didn't like and gave to me:
Tetragrammaton 1503 mono 45s: I hear what could be Howling Wolf The Third growling after just finding out he was being cut from the 45, but it's actually tape bleed-through. There's a phantom howl just before the first call, ditto just ahead of the second howl and the "sneak preview" bleed-through of the first chord coming in halfway through howl number two.
Warner Brothers Back To Back Hits reissue 45 (this is the LP version with three wolf howls, in stereo): no bleed-through noted until the first chord "sneak preview" halfway through the second howl, although it isn't quite as prominent as it is on the mono Tetragrammaton 45s.
Tetragrammaton 102 Shades Of Deep Purple LP: identical to the stereo WB Back To Back Hits 45 above.
So it would appear that the tape bleed-throughs just before the first howl and just before the second howl appear only on the mono tape used to cut the Tetragrammaton 45.
As for the authenticity of the Tetragrammaton U.S. 45, if it isn't a styrene pressing, it's probably a counterfeit.
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Any thoughts on whether or not the mono 45 mix is a fold-down?
I thought this song sounded great in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.
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I did this comparison a few years back. I found the 45
was a fold-down, however you needed to compress the
result and EQ it like the 45 for it to sound "right".
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