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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 10 August 2008 at 6:41pm | IP Logged
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Anyone know the differences between the 45 and LP versions?
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Pat Downey Admin Group
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Posted: 10 August 2008 at 7:48pm | IP Logged
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The introduction is :12 longer on the LP than on the 45.
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Roscoe MusicFan
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Posted: 10 August 2008 at 7:58pm | IP Logged
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The first 5.6 seconds of the intro are chopped off, and there's another edit in the intro that omits most of the second violin line. The 45 runs 2:48; kind of pointless since the LP version only runs 3:00. They must have thought that extra :12 of instrumental intro made a difference.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 10 August 2008 at 8:19pm | IP Logged
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Gentlemen, thank you! A couple easy edits and I now have a file running 2:48.
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davidclark MusicFan
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hummm, i would like to make my own edit, however with the info here, and
no 45 to reference, I can not determine what "most of the second violin line"
means. Can someone exact the edit points for me? Or, send me an MP3?
thanks....
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edtop40 MusicFan
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my commercial 45 for the dave mason song "we just disagree" issued as columbia 10575 states the run time as 2:51 but actually runs 2:49 and is an edit of the full length 2:59 version.....this 45 run time info s/b added to the db......aaron thanks for the edit you did for me yaers ago....
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I agree with David and don't understand the 2nd edit of the intro. Can someone elaborate on the 2nd piece that's edited? I have the song on CD but want a WAV that is the single edit.
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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I have the LP version on a few CDs, and, surprisingly, all sound pretty good.
The oldest CD I have with "We Just Disagree" is Columbia's Rock Classics Of The '70s (1989), where it runs 2:59. The same analog transfer is used for:- Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 34 Late '70s (1993)
- Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 24 1977 (1997; digitally exactly 3.649 dB louder than Sounds Of The Seventies)
- Time-Life's 2-CD Singers And Songwriters Vol. 4 1976-1977 (2000; digitally exactly 3.649 dB louder than Sounds Of The Seventies)
The version on Sony's Seems Like Yesterday Vol. 3 (1990) is a tiny bit muffled. The version on Sony's cheapie After The Love (1991) has a slightly longer fade than the others. The version on Rhino's Listen To The Music '70s Male Singer Songwriters (1996) sounds about the same as After The Love.
Really, all of the above sound just fine for the LP version.
Here are instructions for creating the 45 edit from Rhino's Listen To The Music '70s Male Singer Songwriters (1996):
Remove the first 8 beats from 0:00.0 to 0:06.0 of the LP version.
Segment 1
Begins on downbeat
Extends from 0:06.0 to 0:15.4 of the LP version
Extends from 0:00.0 to 0:09.4 of the 45 edit
Ends mid-beat
Remove the 8 beats from 0:15.4 to 0:21.0 of the LP version.
Segment 2
Begins mid-beat
Extends from 0:21.0 to 3:01.7 (end) of the LP version
Extends from 0:09.4 to 2:50.1 (end) of the 45 edit
Your mixdown will run 2:48 (or 2:50.1, including outro silence) with one edit at 0:09.4.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 26 October 2015 at 11:14am
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