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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 29 September 2005 at 9:27pm | IP Logged
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I recently acquired a cassette single copy of "Street of Dreams" by Nia Peeples. It contains the following track listing:
1) lp version (actual run time is 4:21, not 4:26 as stated on the sleeve)
2) edit (3:32)
According to my research, the one-track promo CD single on Charisma 063 contains the 3:32 edit version which is the version I recall hearing on Top 40 radio. Therefore, I'm not sure if it would be best to classify the 3:32 version as the "short 45 version" since it does appear on the commercial single, or a DJ edit. If it were up to me, I'd say both CD appearances of "Street of Dreams" listed in the 10th edition should probably include a comment to the effect of: (long 45 and LP version).
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Posted: 30 September 2005 at 5:55am | IP Logged
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Thanks for the input Todd. I just entered the timing information in my database and after reading it over I feel that if the reader ever comes across the 3:32 edit on cd (which it is not as of today) they will be able to make their own decision as to whether a short 45 version comment is realistic. To me personally since the lead track on the cassette was 4:21 then that was the official 45 version. There are probably many similar situations where the cassette single or cd single for that matter included multiple versions that were also played on the air but the version the record companies wanted as the lead track was their idea of the "45". version.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 30 September 2005 at 10:27pm | IP Logged
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Pat:
I can see where you're coming from. There have been numerous CD and cassette singles, for instance, featuring an edited version of a song as the A-side/lead-off track followed by the album version as the B-side/backup track. If you were to issue comments differentiating the multiple versions appearing on all of these singles, it would likely become a complicated mess.
But by the same token, there have been cases like Paul McCartney's "No More Lonely Nights", Az Yet featuring Peter Cetera's "Hard to Say I'm Sorry", and Le Click's "Call Me" where the "A-side" and "B-side" both received substantial Top 40 airplay (in the case of "Hard to Say I'm Sorry", the B-side was actually considered the "hit version"!). I guess I'm not quite sure where to draw the line as far as confining the hit version of a commercial single strictly to the A-side.
As for "Street of Dreams", if the 3:32 version were to surface on a domestic CD release, I'm now thinking it would probably be best to classify it as a DJ edit since this edit appears to have been issued on the promo DJ CD single.
Edited by Todd Ireland on 30 September 2005 at 10:30pm
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I have the edit, labeled as just "Edit", on Top Hits USA RH11, released April 1992. It's got a printed time of 3:26 and an actual time of 3:23. I'm fairly certain that it came from the promo CD single, but it may be faded a little early - not sure.
The sound quality on the Top Hits version is pretty good, although the bottom half of the waveform on the right channel is clipped at -2 dB.
I tried to reproduce the edit from the LP version, and it doesn't work. Here are my partial instructions:
Remove the first 3.5 seconds of the LP version - it's everything before the opening downbeat.
Keep 0:03.5-2:17.2 of LP version.
Remove the 8 beats from 2:17.2-2:21.6.
Keep 2:21.6-2:45.0 of LP version.
Then give up...
The break going into the chorus at 2:40 on the "edit" doesn't exist on the LP version, unfortunately.
I didn't compare the vocal ad libs at the end between the two versions.
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