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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Posted: 05 November 2008 at 7:29pm | IP Logged
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It appears that the "single edit" can be edited down from the album version.
I have the album version on:- Spotlight On Hits Vol. 9 (runs 5:01 and 90.2 BPM)
- Hot Hits Vol. 16 (runs 5:02 and 90.2 BPM; sound is a little more compressed than Spotlight)
I have the "single edit" on:- Top Hits USA RH16 (runs about 3:48 and 90.0 BPM; sound is so-so)
I assume that the fade on Top Hits is reasonably close to where it should be (they've been known to accelerate fades), so here are instructions for creating the "single edit" from the album version (timings based on Spotlight On Hits):
Keep the 220 beats from 0:00.0-2:27.6. If you count the initial downbeat as beat "1", then edit on beat number "221".
Edit on the downbeat that begins the word "know".
Remove the 32 beats from 2:27.6-2:48.9.
Keep the 68 beats from 2:48.9-3:34.1.
Edit on the downbeat that begins the word "good".
Remove the 32 beats from 3:34.1-3:55.4.
Keep the 56 beats from 3:55.4-4:32.6.
Edit on the downbeat that begins the word "will". (Nice vocal cues in this song.)
Put a 16-beat fade from 4:21.9 to 4:32.6.
Your mixdown should run 3:50.1, with edits at 2:27.6 and 3:12.8, and a 16-beat fade from 3:39 to 3:50.
Note that the single edit on Top Hits USA runs 0.2% slower than the album version. This is pretty insignificant - you definitely won't be able to hear the difference, and I ignored the difference in my timings above.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 09 December 2010 at 9:51am | IP Logged
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Regarding Bobby Brown's "Good Enough", does anyone know the origin of the "neither the 45 nor LP version" running 4:16-4:17 that has appeared frequently on CD? I'm wondering if this might have come from a promo single release that we haven't identified yet.
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 09 December 2010 at 9:54pm | IP Logged
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Here are the contents of my 1992 promo CD single:
-Bobby Brown--"Good Enough" (MCA5P-2439)
1-(Single Edit) (listed 3:56; actual 3:55)
2-(Album Version) (listed 5:04; actual 5:02)
3-(Instrumental) (listed 5:02; actual 5:01)
4-(Suite) (listed & actual 5:02)
No help here in determining the origin of the mystery 4:16-4:17 common CD version, sad to say.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 10 December 2010 at 6:38am | IP Logged
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Thanks, Jim. So apparently Top 40 stations either played the single version or album version.
It appears several hits first made their "neither the 45 nor LP" version debut on Bobby Brown's Greatest Hits CD (MCA 088112366), including the mystery 4:16-4:17 version of "Good Enough". Rather than simply issue all of Brown's hits in their official single version form on that disc, someone at MCA evidently elected to create some new LP edits instead for some unknown reason.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Posted: 06 January 2011 at 12:08am | IP Logged
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Edtop40 has confirmed for me that his "Good Enough" commercial cassette single has an actual run time of 3:57 and does not state a specific version or printed time. (Thanks for the info, Ed!) I thought I'd pass this along as a supplement to the promo CD single info that has recently been entered into the database.
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