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The actual commercial 45 run time of the Guess Who's "No Time" is 3:45. (Run time info compliments of Jim. The printed record label time is 3:44.) I only post this because database CD run times with no notations range from 3:33 to 3:47.
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Is the album version of this song available anywhere except the vinyl "Canned Wheat" album? This is a rare case where the single version seems to always appear on GH collections.
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The "Canned Wheat" LP contains the first recording of the song. The hit single is from the follow up LP "American Woman" which is a different version/recording than found on "Canned Wheat"
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Canned Wheat was released on CD. That would be the CD source.
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Bill, the Guess Who were "guinea pigs" in a brand new studio that was still working out the kinks, and they always felt that the "Canned Wheat" recordings made there never sounded quite right. They also felt quite rushed by RCA, who wanted an LP out for them, like, yesterday, to capitalize on their first U.S. Top 10 hit, "These Eyes", peaking in 4/69. "Canned Wheat" was rush-released by RCA in 6/69. The group felt that, specifically, the song "No Time" had MUCH more potential than what ended up on "Canned Wheat", and could easily do a much better job with it, given the proper time/proper studio. The hit version was NOT an edited version of the "Canned Wheat" LP version - the hit version was a completely new, re-recording of the same song. This re-recorded, "hit" version first appeared on a 45, in late December of 1969. This same version was also included on their "American Woman" LP, first released two months after the 45 was put out, in February 1970. Bill, FYI, I do also own the "American Woman" RCA album on CD (Buddha 74465 99734 2), and the correct 1970 hit version of "No Time" is included, just as it was on the 1970 LP. So, the "Canned Wheat" LP version should be shown in the database as an "earlier, non-hit version" of "No Time", whereas both the 45 and the "American Woman" CDs both include the exact same, "hit 45" version.
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Highly informative and fascinating info as always, Jim. Thanks!
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Agreed, there are two "album versions", only the Canned Wheat CD has the original non-hit version. They've issued the American Woman LP version (hit version) everywhere else.
Might make an interesting string on it's own, songs re-recorded to be hits like:
Help Me Rhonda
Sweet Mary (Wadsworth Mansion)
Dead Man's Curve
Thinking Of You (Loggins and Messina)
Etc..
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I thought I'd bump up this thread in case the actual 45 run time info in my initial post may have been accidentally overlooked for database consideration.
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Magic Carpet Ride, Steppenwolf.
Well, the first verse anyway.
Edited by Steve Carras on 14 December 2014 at 11:43am
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As far as the Canned Wheat version not being the "hit" version I will offer the following. I heard an unusual version on 13-WAVZ in New Haven, CT before I started working there in January, 1977 as Chief Engineer. My assistant told me a former Music Director came in one night and dubbed his own (funky) mix onto a cart. In the Production Room it was possible to put the left and right turntable channels on individual pots so the mono mixdown could have unequal amounts of either channel.
On WCDQ, a Hamden, CT AM station they played an edit of the Canned Wheat version.
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Bill Cahill wrote:
Agreed, there are two "album
versions", only the Canned Wheat CD has the
original non-hit version. They've issued the
American Woman LP version (hit version) everywhere
else.
Might make an interesting string on it's own, songs
re-recorded to be hits like:
Help Me Rhonda
Sweet Mary (Wadsworth Mansion)
Dead Man's Curve
Thinking Of You (Loggins and Messina)
Etc..
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Or in reverse, rerecorded as the later, radio hit
(a la album versions being the hit) or variations
on that situation--
Just from late 1968 alone:
"Both Sides Now"-Judy Collins (original hit cmae a
year before it eve WAS a hit, in 1967's
"Wildflowers", more familiar-now version is the
rerecorded one on 1972's "Colors of the Day")
"Crimson and Clover"-Tommy James/Shondells
(original version that, unaltered, wound up a hit
was followed in 1969 by the current version, the
spliced-in one..I've read that the same year's
Blood Sweat & Tears "Spinning Wheel" as an LP and
later CD track had that longer jazzy part spliced
in but was still the original one, while the
shorter single was still edited and faded as wel;;_
"Touch Me" by the Doors--redone with the more
musical dubs and the "Stronger than dirt"
commerical tagline dubbed on the end..
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Bill Cahill wrote:
Agreed, there are two "album
versions", only the Canned Wheat CD has the
original non-hit version. They've issued the
American Woman LP version (hit version) everywhere
else.
Might make an interesting string on it's own, songs
re-recorded to be hits like:
Help Me Rhonda
Sweet Mary (Wadsworth Mansion)
Dead Man's Curve
Thinking Of You (Loggins and Messina)
Etc..
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Many ABC/DUnhill, Motown and Columbia singles..
"Time Has Come Today", The Chambers Brothers and
perrhaps the oddest duck in that it, uh, hatched in
1966 as a single or album, with the metronome as a
clock, then a sick mosquito sound (to me, anyhow,)
then the song, then the rerecording of that in the
11:05 version that became the definite recording,
spawning those TWO edits, a shorter (3:57?) then
one a minute longer (4:57).
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Another rerecorded for single release hit was "Boogie Woogie Bugle Boy" by Bette Midler (1973).
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