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Posted: 16 October 2005 at 9:34pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Although my cassette singles and CD singles for the following songs are in Michigan, I'll attempt to provide the most accurate info I can.

Juicy - The cassette single (2-track) features the Radio Edit, which has only appeared on a full-length cd once, which is Big Phat Ones Of Hip-Hop Vol. 1. The version on the clean Ready To Die remaster is not the same length, and it is edited differently. This edit was not previously released.

Big Poppa - The 2-track cassette single uses the Radio Edit, which has yet to appear on a full-length domestic CD. The "censored lyrics" versions appearing on Bad Boy's 10th Anniversary and Ready To Die clean remastered edition are NOT the same as the Radio Edit. They are edited differently and had not been issued prior to those releases.

One More Chance/Stay With Me - The lead track on the CD single is "Radio Edit 1" which to my knowledge has never been issued on a full-length domestic cd.

Hypnotize - The 2-track cd single features the Radio Mix, which has only appeared on a full-length cd once--the clean version of The Source Presents Hip Hop Hits. All other "censored lyrics" versions listed in the database are NOT the Radio Mix and were first issued on their respective releases.

Mo Money Mo Problems - The 2-track cd single uses the Radio Mix, which is mixed differently than the LP version in addition to having censored lyrics. None of the CDs listed in the database with "censored lyrics" are the correct 45 version. To my knowledge, the true 45 version is only available on the CD single.
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Posted: 17 March 2009 at 10:29am | IP Logged Quote PaulEschen

My CD single (Bad Boy 78612-79016-2) has the Club Mix for "Big Poppa" (listed-4:13,
actual-4:11) and the Club Mix for "Warning" (listed and actual-3:41). Both tracks are
not censored. Are these versions different than the cassette single tracks? I want to be
clear if the cassette single is censored.
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Posted: 17 March 2009 at 2:40pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Paul, good question! Mine are definitely censored, but I wonder if there are two different cassette singles for both "Big Poppa" and "Juicy." I purchased those cassette singles at Wal-Mart, and obviously they don't sell anything with explicit lyrics stickers. It's possible that explicit versions of the cassette singles also exist. Perhaps edtop40 can help us out.
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Posted: 17 March 2009 at 3:02pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Luckily, Big Phat Ones Of Hip-Hop Vol. 1 is available through Amazon for as little as 48 cents!

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Posted: 17 March 2009 at 4:38pm | IP Logged Quote PaulEschen

A couple of sellers online have a 12" vinyl version that has on the B-side,
both "Big Poppa" (radio edit - 4:12) and "Warning" (radio edit - 2:57). Do
these match the cassette single track descriptions?
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Posted: 17 March 2009 at 6:19pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Ordered a copy of Big Phat Ones Of Hip-Hop Vol. 1 tonight. Thanks for the tip!

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Posted: 18 March 2009 at 1:30pm | IP Logged Quote Paul C

I have two different U.S. commercial 45s for "Big Poppa".

Bad Boy 78612-79019-7 (the plain white sleeve has a "Parental Advisory" sticker):
A-side: "Big Poppa Remix (Club Mix)"
B-side: "Who Shot Ya? (Club Mix)"

Bad Boy 78612-79024-7:
A-side: "Big Poppa (Radio Edit)"
B-side: "Warning (Radio Edit)"
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Posted: 19 March 2009 at 5:29am | IP Logged Quote eric_a

Paul C wrote:
I have two different U.S. commercial 45s for "Big Poppa".


Wow - I have a lot of the 12" singles from Bad Boy's mid-90s heyday, but I've never seen any 45s on the Bad Boy label, even jukebox singles. Were they actually pressed on Bad Boy or on Arista? Were these available in the US?
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Posted: 19 March 2009 at 6:10am | IP Logged Quote torcan

eric_a wrote:
Paul C wrote:
I have two different U.S. commercial 45s for "Big Poppa".


Wow - I have a lot of the 12" singles from Bad Boy's mid-90s heyday, but I've never seen any 45s on the Bad Boy label, even jukebox singles. Were they actually pressed on Bad Boy or on Arista? Were these available in the US?


They were pressed on Bad Boy, distributed by Arista. I don't have those ones, but I do have a couple of Total singles on Bad Boy from around the same time.

Arista is one of those labels that changed their mind a few times about 45s. For the most part, Arista cut the production of pop 45s by late '91. During the "Bodyguard" period, they did all of Whitney's singles on 45 plus a few others. In '95 they went through about a year where they did almost all of the chart hits again - including some Toni Braxton singles on LaFace, and a couple from TLC, but then stopped (mostly) again sometime in '96. They continued to do country singles on 45 all through this period.
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Posted: 02 June 2009 at 9:25am | IP Logged Quote jimct

I have taken Aaron's initial post, and tried to see what I had filed away for promo CD singles on them. I'm just about positive Aaron is already "all over" the commercial CD single configurations. Other tracks are included on some of these promos, and I would normally only note them briefly, or not at all. But I have found that many of these other, "straggler" tracks by Rap/Hip-Hop artists also seem to be of interest to many, so in this case I will include that information as well:

-Notorious B.I.G.-"Juicy" (BBPCD-9004)
1-Juicy (Radio Edit) (listed & actual 4:15)
2-Juicy (Remix) (listed 4:42; actual 4:41)
3-Unbelievable (Radio Edit) (listed & actual 3:46)


**We received in to the station two separate promo CD singles for this next one**
-Notorious B.I.G.-"Big Poppa" (BBPCD-9015)
1-Big Poppa (Radio Edit) (listed 4:13; actual 4:11)
2-Warning (Radio Edit) (listed 2:57; actual 2:56)
3-Big Poppa (Instrumental) (listed 4:13; actual 4:12)
4-Warning (Instrumental) (listed & actual 3:41)

-Notorious B.I.G.-"Big Poppa" (REMIX) (BBPCD-9019)
1-Big Poppa Remix (Radio Edit) (listed & actual 4:11)
2-Who Shot Ya? (Radio Edit) (listed & actual 5:19)
3-Big Poppa Remix (Instrumental) (listed & actual 4:11)
4-Who Shot Ya? (Instrumental) (listed & actual 5:09)


-Notorious B.I.G.-"One More Chance/Stay With Me" (BBPCD-9031)
1-One More Chance/Stay With Me (Radio Edit) (listed & actual 4:15)
2-One More Chance (Hip Hop Radio Edit) (listed 4:28; actual 4:18)
3-The What (Radio Edit) (listed 4:00; actual 3:59)
4-One More Chance/Stay With Me (Instrumental) (listed 4:35; actual 4:33)


-Notorious B.I.G.-"Hypnotize" (instead of a promo, for this song Bad Boy instead sent us a commercial CD single, placing a "Not For Sale" sticker over the UPC symbol.)(78612-79093-2)
1-Hypnotize (Clean Radio Edit) (listed & actual 3:59)
2-I Got A Story To Tell (Clean Radio Edit) (listed 3:09; actual 3:07)


-Notorious B.I.G.-"Mo Money Mo Problems" (BBPCD-9099)
1-Radio Mix (listed 4:12; actual 4:10)
2-Instrumental (listed 4:12; actual 4:10)
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Posted: 02 June 2009 at 3:45pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

sorry i missed this post originally.....here is the track listing of the commercial cassingles i have from "the notorious BIG"


bad boy 79004
1-"juicy" (dirty mix)
2-"unbelievable" (no description)

"juicy" runs 5:02 and is identical to the full length dirty version on the cd "ready to die"

"unbelievable" runs 3:43 and is identical to the full length dirty version from the cd "ready to die"

the cassingle has a parental advisory sticker on the front citing explicit lyrics



bad boy 79015
1-"big poppa" (club mix)
2-"warning" (club mix)

"big poppa" runs 4:12 and is identical to the full length dirty version from the cd "ready to die" even though it states that the version on the cassingle is the "club mix" it is the same as the lp version

"warning" runs 3:41 and is identical to the full length dirty version from the cd "ready to die" even though it states that the version on the cassingle is the "club mix" it is the same as the lp version

the cassingle has a parental advisory sticker on the front citing explicit lyrics



bad boy 79031
1-"one more chance/stay with me" (radio edit)
2-"one more chance/stay with me" (hip hop radio edit)
3-"the what" (radio edit)

"one more chance/stay with me" runs 4:17 and is identical to the "radio edit 1" version from the commercial cd single

"the what" runs 4:01 and is identical to the "radio edit" version from the commercial cd single

this cassingle does NOT have a parental advisory label

JUST A NOTE

there is a remix cassingle for the song "big poppa" issued as bad boy 79019

bad boy 79019
1-"big poppa" (club mix)
2-"big poppa remix" (club mix)
3-"who shot ya?" (club mix)

i don't have any info on the whereabouts of these tracks since it wasn't the cassingle charted on billboard



the songs from 1997 and after i have in cd single format which i don't have in my possession right now, but will get them this week and post my findings as an addendum..


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Posted: 03 June 2009 at 2:04pm | IP Logged Quote PaulEschen

Since there is a cassette single with the "Club Mix"/actual LP versions of "Big
Poppa" and "Warning", I'm going to assume that would be the official
single version. Thanks for the info. I wonder if Billboard tabulated both the
Radio Edit and Club Mix cassette singles in figuring the sales and airplay, or
separated them?

Edited by PaulEschen on 03 June 2009 at 2:05pm
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Posted: 03 June 2021 at 10:41am | IP Logged Quote chendagam

Does anyone know if the version of "hypnotize" on the Bad Boy's
10th Anniversary and Ready To Die clean remastered edition is the
same as the "promo" cd single? My wife noticed the "a--" word in
tact and was not too happy for our 2 year old to be listening :)
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Posted: 04 June 2021 at 8:54am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

The 2014 remastered Life After Death is NOT the Radio Mix found on CD singles. This version simply mutes most (not all) of the dirty words. The Radio Mix has sound effects in place of many of the naughty words, and "ass" is reversed.

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