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There are three distinct versions of "Hot Stuff" that were released in 1979.
The shortest is the 45 version, which runs 3:49 (thanks to Jim).
The next longest is the LP version, which runs 5:14, and tracks into "Bad Girls" on the album.
The longest is the 12" single, which runs 6:46and tracks into "Bad Girls" on some configurations of the 12" (with the two songs, combined running 11:40). In other configurations of the 12" single, the 6:46 version is faded a little early to 6:40 (?) and cuts out "Bad Girls" entirely. The 12" single is the same as the LP version until 4:31. After 4:31, the 12" version features a sax part that's not in the LP version. I don't think the LP version can be edited down from the 12" version.
Likewise, I don't think the 45 can be recreated from the LP or 12" versions. I'll post partial instructions, which show where the first two edits in the 45 are, but the last few seconds of the 45 seem to be unique to the 45:
Segment 1
384 beats long, ends on downbeat that follows the words "how's about some"
Extends from 0:00.0-3:11.7 of the 45 and LP versions
Remove the 128 beats from 3:11.7-4:15.4 of the LP version
Segment 2
16 beats long, begins and ends on downbeat
Extends from 3:11.7-3:19.7 of the 45 version
Extends from 4:15.4-4:23.4 of the LP version
Remove the 24 beats from 4:23.4-4:35.3 of the LP version
Segment 3
32 beats long, begins and ends on downbeat
Extends from 3:19.7-3:35.6 of the 45 version
Extends from 4:35.3-4:51.3 of the LP version
Segment 4
about 24 beats long; the fade starts at the beginning of this segment and ends at the end of this segment
Extends from 3:35.6-3:49 (end) of the 45 version
Doesn't seem to exist in the LP version or the 12" version
Anyone else care to take a stab at this? I'll gladly update the info if I'm wrong. I envision Mr. Moroder hunched over an editing block, waist deep in tape segments and splice tape...
Anyway, here are my mastering findings.
45 version
The 45 version first appeared on Silver Eagle/Warner Special Products' 2-CD Dancin' The Night Away (1988), where it runs 3:49 and 120.3 BPM throughout (it's a live drummer playing to a click track). It tracks closely with Class Reunion '79, but I can't tell if they're the same analog transfer.
The 45 version next appeared on Warner Special Products' 2-CD Ultimate Party Album, where it runs 3:49 and 120.1 BPM throughout. Sound quality is very close to Dancin'.
Bill Inglot seems to have found better source tapes than the discs listed above for Rhino's Disco Years Vol. 4 (1992), where it runs 120.5 BPM throughout. The edits are in the correct place, but the song extends all the way out to 4:27, making it about 38 seconds longer than the 45. Very clear sound, slightly boosted high end typical of the Rhino releases, and overall my favorite of the 45 versions. The same analog transfer is used for Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 27 Dance Fever (1992).
There was a new analog transfer for PolyGram's Pure Disco (1996), where it runs 3:48 and 120.5 BPM throughout. Although it clips a bit, it sounds quite nice here. The same analog transfer is used for Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 47 '70s Dance Party 1979-1981 (1997; mastered by Dennis Drake, excellent EQ).
The single-artist Journey The Very Best Of runs 3:49 and 120.3 BPM throughout. It's a bit compressed.
The version on TM Century's GoldDisc 7504 runs 3:49, with a more gradual fade than the others, and 120.5 BPM throughout.
LP version
The LP version on Casablanca's Bad Girls runs 5:14 and 120.5 BPM throughout, and tracks into "Bad Girls". Sound is quite nice here. The version on Casablanca Records Greatest Hits (1996) is digitally exactly 0.5 dB louder.
The LP version on the 2-CD Deluxe Edition of Bad Girls runs about 5:15 and 120.4 BPM throughout, and also tracks into "Bad Girls". Sound is very compressed.
12" version
The 12" version on the 2-CD Anthology (1993) runs 6:46 and 120.5 BPM throughout, and tracks into "Bad Girls". It sounds really nice here.
The 12" version on disc 2 of the 2-CD Bad Girls Deluxe Edition runs 6:47 and 120.4 BPM throughout, and tracks into "Bad Girls". The sound is loud and compressed.
I think the 12" version on the single-artist Journey The Very Best Of uses the same analog transfer as the Deluxe Edition, but faded early. Also loud and compressed.
The 12" medley of "Hot Stuff/Bad Girls", as one track, is on Rhino's Billboard Top Dance Hits 1979, where it runs 11:44 and 120.6 BPM.
Best Bets
For the 45 version with proper 45 length, go with Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 47 '70s Dance Party 1979-1981.
If you don't mind the version being 38 seconds longer than the 45, then go with Disco Years Vol. 4.
For the LP version, go with the original release of Bad Girls.
For the 12" version, go with the 2-CD Anthology.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 29 September 2014 at 7:20am
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Probably, but I don't have that one. I have a boatload of
compilations, and relatively few single-artist discs.
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