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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 10:45am | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast
In the spirit of my Collecting 1979 post, I've assembled results for 1978.

What I'm going to list is the compilations that have the most number of "best-sounding" top 40 hits on them. In other words, if you want to bulk up on the best-sounding hits quickly, buy these. They're listed in descending order of number-of-best-sounding-hit-versions-of-top-40-hits on them. These are all the CDs that have the best-sounding versions of three or more top 40 hits from 1978.

Sounds Of The Seventies - '70s Dance Party 1978-1979 (Time-Life R840-08, 1997, 10 tracks)
  • Chic - Dance, Dance, Dance (Yowsah, Yowsah, Yowsah) [45 version]
  • Yvonne Elliman - If I Can't Have You
  • The Trammps - Disco Inferno [45 version]
  • Andy Gibb - Shadow Dancing [LP length]
  • The O'Jays - Use Ta Be My Girl [45 version]
  • Heatwave - The Groove Line [45 version]
  • Peter Brown - Dance With Me [45 version]
  • A Taste Of Honey - Boogie Oogie Oogie [45 version]
  • Village People - Macho Man [45 version]
  • Foxy - Get Off [:05 longer than 45 version]
Have A Nice Day Vol. 21 (Rhino R2 71201, 1993, 7 tracks)
  • Player - Baby Come Back [45 version]
  • Dan Hill - Sometimes When We Touch [45 version]
  • Jay Ferguson - Thunder Island [45 length]
  • David Gates - Goodbye Girl
  • Warren Zevon - Werewolves Of London
  • Michael Johnson - Bluer Than Blue
  • Walter Egan - Magnet And Steel
Billboard Top Hits - 1978 (Rhino R2 70673, 1991, 6 tracks)
  • Queen - We Are The Champions
  • Eric Clapton - Lay Down Sally [45 length]
  • Bonnie Tyler - It's A Heartache
  • Abba - Take A Chance On Me
  • Exile - Kiss You All Over [45 version]
  • Nick Gilder - Hot Child In The City
Singers And Songwriters - 1978-1979 (Time-Life R812-05, 2000, 6 tracks)
  • Paul Simon - Slip Slidin' Away
  • Paul Davis - I Go Crazy [LP length]
  • England Dan and John Ford Coley - We'll Never Have To Say Goodbye Again
  • Carly Simon - You Belong To Me [LP length]
  • Little River Band - Reminiscing [LP version]
  • Kenny Loggins - Whenever I Call You "Friend"
Sounds Of The Seventies - 1978: Take Two (Time-Life SOD-20, 1991, 6 tracks)
  • Genesis - Follow You, Follow Me [45 version]
  • Eric Clapton - Wonderful Tonight [45 version]
  • Frankie Valli - Grease
  • Todd Rundgren - Can We Still Be Friends [45 version]
  • Linda Ronstadt - Back In The U.S.A.
  • Firefall - Strange Way [45 version]
Have A Nice Day Vol. 24 (Rhino R2 72298, 1996, 4 tracks)
  • Shaun Cassidy - Hey Deanie
  • Wet Willie - Street Corner Serenade
  • Andrew Gold - Thank You For Being A Friend [dj 45 version]
  • Chuck Mangione - Feels So Good [45 version]
Have A Nice Day Vol. 25 (Rhino R2 72299, 1996, 4 tracks)
  • LeBlanc and Carr - Falling
  • Toby Beau - My Angel Baby
  • City Boy - 5.7.0.5
  • Gino Vannelli - I Just Wanna Stop
Billy Joel - Greatest Hits Volume I & Volume II (Columbia G2K 40121, 1985, 4 tracks)
  • Billy Joel - Just The Way You Are [:08 longer than 45]
  • Billy Joel - Movin' Out (Anthony's Song) [LP version; has peel-out sound effects]
  • Billy Joel - Only The Good Die Young
  • Billy Joel - She's Always A Woman
Solid Gold Soul - 1978 (Time-Life R838-17, 1997, 4 tracks)
  • Bill Withers - Lovely Day [LP length]
  • Raydio - Jack And Jill [45 length]
  • Stargard - Theme Song From "Which Way Is Up"
  • Teddy Pendergrass - Close The Door [45 version?]
Sounds Of The Seventies - 1978 (Time-Life SOD-10, 1990, 4 tracks)
  • Randy Newman - Short People
  • Joe Walsh - Life's Been Good [45 version]
  • Foreigner - Hot Blooded [45 version]
  • Foreigner - Double Vision [45 version]
Steely Dan - Citizen (MCA MCAD4-10981, 1993, 4 tracks)
  • Steely Dan - Peg
  • Steely Dan - Deacon Blues [LP version]
  • Steely Dan - FM (No Static At All) [sax ending]
  • Steely Dan - Josie
Didn't It Blow Your Mind, Vol. 19 (Rhino R2 72129, 1995, 3 tracks)
  • Natalie Cole - Our Love [45 version]
  • Heatwave - Always And Forever [45 version]
  • Lou Rawls - Lady Love [45 version]
The Disco Years, Vol. 3: Boogie Fever (Rhino R2 70274, 1992, 3 tracks)
  • Sylvester - Dance (Disco Heat) [45 version]
  • Chic - Le Freak [:40 longer than 45]
  • Alicia Bridges - I Love The Nightlife (Disco Round) [although missing the the 20 beats from 2:39.4 to 2:49.1 of the true 45 version, with edit points before and after the word "disco", I chose this version because sound quality is FAR better than all other CDs]
Guitar Rock - The Late '70s (Time Life R968-14, 1995, 3 tracks)
  • Kansas - Dust In The Wind
  • Foghat - Stone Blue
  • Eddie Money - Two Tickets To Paradise [LP version]
Hitsville U.S.A. Vol. II (Motown 6358, 1993, 3 tracks)
  • Commodores - Three Times A Lady [45 version]
  • Rick James - You And I [45 version]
  • Switch - There'll Never Be
Olivia Newton-John - Back To Basics - The Essential Collection 1971-1992 (Geffen GEFD-24470, 1992, 3 tracks)
  • John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John - You're The One That I Want
  • Olivia Newton-John - Hopelessly Devoted To You
  • John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John - Summer Nights
Rock On - 1978 (Madacy ROK2 1978, 1996, 3 tracks)
  • Samantha Sang - Emotion
  • Bob Welch - Ebony Eyes [LP length]
  • Sweet - Love Is Like Oxygen [45 version]
Rod Stewart - Storyteller (Warner Bros. 9 25987-2, 1989, 3 tracks)
  • Rod Stewart - You're In My Heart (The Final Acclaim)
  • Rod Stewart - Hot Legs [LP version]
  • Rod Stewart - I Was Only Joking [LP version]
Styx - Greatest Hits (A&M 314540387, 1995, 3 tracks)
  • Styx - Come Sail Away [LP version]
  • Styx - Fooling Yourself (The Angry Young Man)
  • Styx - Blue Collar Man (Long Nights)
The above 19 CDs (three of them being in a box set) get you the best-sounding versions of 83 top 40 hits from 1978.

I should point out that there are many digital clones on the Time-Life CDs. In many cases, mastering engineer Dennis Drake applied a little EQ to tweak the sound from an existing CD. For instance, he tends to gently roll off some of the high end on the songs taken from Rhino's Disco Years. The differences are small, but in those cases, I give the nod to Dennis Drake's EQ'd clones.

I'll try an assemble another post for this thread showing where the cloned tracks came from. (Not that anyone really cares too much about this, but this seems like the most logical place on the entire web to post such info.)
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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 11:23am | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast
Here's the mastering info. Dennis Drake mastered the Singers And Songwriters set and the Seventies Dance Party disc. No mastering engineer listed on AM Gold. I didn't list the Sounds Of The Seventies - 1978 and 1978: Take Two discs because I found few, if any, digital clones on them.

Tracks with a "?" are most likely taken from a CD I don't have, or (less likely) are fresh analog transfer.

AM Gold - 1978
  1. Nick Gilder - Hot Child In The City [identical to Billboard Top Hits 1978 (1991)]
  2. Sweet - Love Is Like Oxygen [digitally exactly same level as Rock On 1978 (1996)]
  3. Boston - Don't Look Back [1.5 dB > Sounds Of The Seventies AM Nuggets]
  4. John Paul Young - Love Is In The Air [identical to Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 22]
  5. Bob Welch - Sentimental Lady [1.015 dB > Sounds Of The Seventies AM Nuggets]
  6. Little River Band - Reminiscing [1 dB > Sounds Of The Seventies 1978 Take Two]
  7. Player - Baby Come Back [1.5 dB < Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 21]
  8. Pablo Cruise - Love Will Find A Way [1.5 dB > Sounds Of The Seventies AM Nuggets]
  9. Chuck Mangione - Feels So Good [1.9 dB < Sounds Of The Seventies Loss For Words]
  10. Commodores - Three Times A Lady [0.808 dB > Hitsville Vol. II (1993)]
  11. Andy Gibb - Shadow Dancing [diff EQ than Seventies Dance Party 1978-1979]
  12. Yvonne Elliman - If I Can't Have You [1.5 dB < Billboard Top Hits 1978 (1991)]
  13. Chic - Le Freak [0.79 dB > Sounds Of The Seventies 1978]
  14. Exile - Kiss You All Over [0.5 dB < Billboard Top Hits 1978 (1991)]
  15. O'Jays - Use Ta Be My Girl [0.5 dB < Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vol. 20]
  16. Dolly Parton - Here You Come Again [?]
  17. Jay Ferguson - Thunder Island [0.5 dB < Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 21]
  18. Gino Vannelli - I Just Wanna Stop [identical to Body Talk Together Forever (1996)]
  19. Al Stewart - Time Passages [sound very close to Heartland Music Presents Night Songs (1994), but not digital clone]
  20. Ambrosia - How Much I Feel [sound very close to Razor & Tie's Easy '70s (1993), but not digital clone]
Singers And Songwriters - 1978-1979 Disc 1
  1. Player - Baby Come Back [terrible sound - no high end]
  2. Robert John - Sad Eyes [?]
  3. Doobie Brothers - What A Fool Believes [diff EQ than Body Talk Magic Moments (1996) and AM Gold 1979 (1997)]
  4. Gerry Rafferty - Baker Street [probably clone of EMI City To City, which I don't have; about 2.8% faster than DCC Gold City To City]
  5. Dan Fogelberg - Longer [?]
  6. Bonnie Tyler - It's A Heartache [diff EQ than Sounds Of The Seventies 1978 Take Two]
  7. Dan Hill - Sometimes When We Touch [probably clone of Greatest Hits And More]
  8. Little River Band - Reminiscing [diff EQ Than Body Talk On My Mind (1996)]
  9. J.D. Souther - You're Only Lonely [diff EQ than Sounds Of The Seventies 1979]
  10. Al Stewart - Time Passages [diff EQ than Priority's 70's Greatest Rock Hits Vol. 6 FM Hits (1991)]
  11. England Dan And John Ford Coley - We'll Never Have To Say Goodbye Again [diff EQ than Body Talk From The Heart]
  12. Warren Zevon - Werewolves Of London [diff EQ than Sounds Of The Seventies 1978]
Singers And Songwriters - 1978-1979 Disc 2
  1. Randy Vanwarmer - Just When I Needed You Most [diff EQ than Billboard Top Hits 1979 (1991)]
  2. Dire Straits - Sultans Of Swing [diff EQ than Guitar Rock - 1989-1979 (1993)]
  3. Kenny Loggins - Whenever I Call You Friend [diff EQ than both Easy '70s (1993) and Body Talk Forever Yours (1996)]
  4. Linda Ronstadt - Ooh Baby Baby [diff EQ than both Greatest Hits Vol. II and Body Talk - Moonlit Nights (1996)]
  5. Bob Welch - Sentimental Lady [diff EQ than Body Talk On My Mind]
  6. Poco - Crazy Love [diff EQ than Body Talk Sealed With A Kiss (1996)]
  7. Paul Simon - Slip Slidin' Away [diff EQ than Sounds Of The Seventies 1977]
  8. John Stewart - Gold [diff EQ than Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 22]
  9. Carly Simon - You Belong To Me [diff EQ than both Cosmopolitan Vol. 3 (1992) and Body Talk Only You (1996)]
  10. Paul Davis - I Go Crazy [diff EQ than Rock Artifacts Vol. 2]
  11. Nicolette Larson - Lotta Love [diff EQ than Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 22]
  12. Fleetwood Mac - Think About Me [?]
Solid Gold Soul - 1978
  1. Chic - Le Freak [0.593 dB > Sounds Of The Seventies 1978; tape drag]
  2. Peaches And Herb - Shake Your Groove Thing [0.197 dB < The Disco Years Vol. 1 (1990)]
  3. A Taste Of Honey - Boogie Oogie Oogie [0.198 dB < The Disco Years Vol. 1 (1990)]
  4. O'Jays - Use Ta Be My Girl [diff EQ than Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vol. 20]
  5. Cheryl Lynn - Got To Be Real [2.197 dB < The Disco Years Vol. 2 (1990)]
  6. Stargard - Theme Song From Which Way Is Up [?]
  7. Linda Clifford - Runaway Love [?]
  8. Bill Withers - Lovely Day [probably clone of Lean On Me: Best Of]
  9. Johnny Mathis and Deniece Williams - Too Much Too Little Too Late [?]
  10. Heatwave - Always And Forever [0.7 dB < Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vol. 19]
  11. Parliament - Flash Light [1.698 dB < Rhino's In Yo' Face Vol. 5]
  12. Funkadelic - One Nation Under A Groove [0.303 dB > Sounds Of The Seventies Dance Fever]
  13. Isley Brothers - Take Me To The Next Phase (Part 1) [1.197 dB < Rhino's In Yo' Face Vol. 4]
  14. Foxy - Get Off [diff EQ than Rhino's The Disco Years Vol. 3 (1992)]
  15. Earth, Wind And Fire - September [0.803 dB > ARC/Columbia's The Best Of Earth, Wind & Fire (1986)]
  16. Natalie Cole - Our Love [0.2 dB < Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vol. 19]
  17. Ashford And Simpson - It Seems To Hang On [?]
  18. Raydio - Jack And Jill [1.303 dB > Sounds Of The Seventies 1978 Take Two]
  19. Teddy Pendergrass - Close The Door [?]
Seventies Dance Party - 1978-1979
  1. Yvonne Elliman - If I Can't Have You [diff EQ than Billboard Top Hits 1978 (1991)]
  2. Village People - Macho Man [diff EQ than The Disco Years Vol. 3]
  3. Donna Summer - Last Dance [diff EQ than Casablanca Records Greatest Hits (1996)]
  4. Chic - Dance Dance Dance (Yowsah Yowsah Yowsah) [diff EQ than Sounds Of The Seventies Dance Fever (1992)]
  5. GQ - Disco Nights (Rock-Freak) [diff EQ from Solid Gold Soul 1979]
  6. Heatwave - The Groove Line [diff EQ than Sounds Of The Seventies 1978 Take Two]
  7. Evelyn "Champagne" King - Shame [diff EQ than The Disco Years Vol. 5]
  8. Peter Brown - Dance With Me [diff EQ than The Disco Years Vol. 1 (1990)]
  9. Earth, Wind And Fire With The Emotions - Boogie Wonderland [?]
  10. Amii Stewart - Knock On Wood [diff EQ than The Disco Years Vol. 3]
  11. Peaches And Herb - Shake Your Groove Thing [diff EQ than The Disco Years Vol. 1 (1990)]
  12. Trammps - Disco Inferno [diff EQ than Disco Years Vol. 1 (1990)]
  13. A Taste Of Honey - Boogie Oogie Oogie [diff EQ than The Disco Years Vol. 1 (1990)]
  14. Kool And The Gang - Ladies Night [diff EQ than Priority's Mega Hits Dance Classics Vol. 2 (1989)]
  15. O'Jays - Use Ta Be My Girl [diff EQ than Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vol. 20]
  16. Foxy - Get Off [diff EQ than Rhino's The Disco Years Vol. 3 (1992)]
  17. McFadden And Whitehead - Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now [diff EQ than The Disco Years Vol. 2 and Solid Gold Soul 1979]
  18. Andy Gibb - Shadow Dancing [diff EQ than AM Gold 1978 (1997)]
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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 1:19pm | IP Logged Quote bwolfe
Andrew Gold's "Thank You For Being A Friend" from Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 24 is the 45 version.
Confused over the dj45 notation.
The commercial single I own has the 4:41 length on the label. But wasn't the short version "the" 45 version?

I know that the full length is or was available on a Chicken Soup For the Soul volume also on Rhino.


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Barry Manilow seems very conspicuous by his absence.

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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 2:13pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast
sriv94 wrote:
Barry Manilow seems very conspicuous by his absence.


I wholeheartedly recommend The Essential Barry Manilow (2005), which has all four of Barry's 1978 top 40 hits on it, and has fine sound for "Can't Smile Without You" and "Ready To Take A Chance Again".

For "Even Now", I preferred the sound on Time-Life's Body Talk - Just For You (1996).

For "Copacabana", I really didn't like the sound on Essential - it's too compressed and smiley-face EQ'd for my tastes. I didn't like the sound on Greatest Hits Vol. 2, either, because it's from a higher-generation tape. My version of choice, silly as it sounds, is from a rip of a CD I borrowed from a friend in college, and I can't for the life of me remember what CD it is! So much for accurate note-taking!
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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 5:07pm | IP Logged Quote Hykker
bwolfe wrote:
Andrew Gold's "Thank You For Being A Friend" from Rhino's Have A Nice Day Vol. 24 is the 45 version.
Confused over the dj45 notation.
The commercial single I own has the 4:41 length on the label. But wasn't the short version "the" 45 version?



I was going to ask the same question. My promo & commercial 45s both have the same version despite the wrong time on the commercial one. Does anyone have a commercial 45 that runs 4:41 (or thereabouts), or one with the correct time listed?
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I don't believe there were any long version commercial 45s of "Thank You For Being A Friend".

I am aware that in the case of "Lonely Boy" the vast majority of the commercial 45s were the longer, lamer LP mix (but some commercial copies of the shorter, punchier promo 45 mix did leak out).

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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 6:28pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast
I don't have the 45, so I used what was listed in the 1955-1996 book: (dj copies of this 45 ran (3:56); commercial copies were all (4:41))
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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 7:14pm | IP Logged Quote sriv94
crapfromthepast wrote:
For "Copacabana", I really didn't like the sound on Essential - it's too compressed and smiley-face EQ'd for my tastes. I didn't like the sound on Greatest Hits Vol. 2, either, because it's from a higher-generation tape. My version of choice, silly as it sounds, is from a rip of a CD I borrowed from a friend in college, and I can't for the life of me remember what CD it is! So much for accurate note-taking!


Hey, it happens.

Of course, all of the CDs you mention have the long side of the 45 of "Copacabana." Of course, we're starting to find a few CDs that have the short side (which I'm more partial to myself).

Speaking of "Copacabana," was anyone able to verify whether the (4:06) version on the Madagascar 2 soundtrack is the Even Now vinyl LP version (which I do believe is mixed a little hotter and has an extra line that was snipped out of the short side of the 45)?

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