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edtop40 MusicFan
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i see in the db that there was a dj 45 issued with a edited version (3:51) of the song "i will always love you" by whitney houston, but all the cd singles i've come across contain the album version which runs 4:31......was there ever an edited version issued on cd?
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Ed, I believe "dj 45" is actually referring to one of the promo CD singles. I can't imagine that the record labels were issuing too many (if any) promo 45s by the end of 1992. Todd points out in a "DJ edits" thread that there is more than one promo CD for this song. The short one that you are referring to has a "just in time for the holidays" message on the front. I think it cuts the first verse (acapella) and starts with "And Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii..."
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thanks for the insight, aaron........does anyone have the 3:51 promo cd single version they could send me a wave file of?
Edited by edtop40 on 06 October 2009 at 7:58am
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edtop40 wrote:
thanks for the insight, aaron........does anyone have the 3:51 promo cd single version they could send me a wave file of? |
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I have a version that fits this description on a TM-Century GoldDisc. This is the version I'd always play on the air during the song's chart run. It was/is such a screechy, annoying song I just wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible. :-/
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We never cared for the "edit".
When heard on the radio it made me think that the air personality should say "we now join Whitney Houston already in progress."
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There is some information in the "DJ edits still at large" thread that is not correct. Here's what was reported:
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WHITNEY HOUSTON - I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU (Radio Edit – 3:51) (Arista ASCD-2490)
Believe it or not, there indeed appear to be two "I Will Always Love You" promo CDs with the same catalog number. One contains two tracks (which is probably the copy you have) and the other has just one track. You can see the one track promo disc here:
http://eil.com/shop/moreinfo.asp?catalogid=86839
As you visit the aforementioned website, you'll notice above the picture of the promo CD the following text: "Scarce US special holiday reissue 1-track promo CD in unique custom picture sleeve - completely different to any other ASCD-2490". I do specifically remember a commonly played radio version of "I Will Always Love You" where the a cappella intro is edited out and instead the song begins with strings fading in and Whitney Houston softly crooning. I believe this is the shortened radio version that runs approximately 3:51. Unfortunately, I can't remember off the top of my head where I got that run time (the eil.com website I listed doesn't say), but I can get back to you on that. |
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As of today, I now own both promo CD singles, and the audio contained on them is identical.
ASCD-2490
1. actual time 4:23
2. actual time 4:31
Neither disc lists two tracks, but the artwork is totally different between the two, including the disc label. The only thing that differs is the matrix numbers:
Black disc label: ASCD2490 10/92 1DA1
Red disc label: ASCD2490 12/93 2DA2
The second disc was clearly issued a full year after the song had hit #1. First of all, the back insert reads "From the 10x Platinum #1 album The Bodyguard." Secondly, this one lists a copyright of 1992 & 1993. Third, Arista, around this time period, would often put the month and year in the matrix, and this one clearly has "12/93" indicating the disc was sent out "just in time for the holidays" in 1993 (not 1992).
As for the version that has the edited intro, I believe that version was done by TM Century, appearing originally on HitDisc 972A. It was subsequently included on GoldDisc 944 in their Hot AC library.
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I assume the 4:23 version is the one that fades out with Whitney singing the word "You.....", whereas on the 4:31 version, it fades out with "You...oooh...oooh"? The former is the one that appears on her Greatest Hits CD. I wonder why they felt the need to make a separate fade for it when it was less than a 10 second difference.
The edited intro version is also on TM Century 9208, along with the 4:23 version.
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That's correct. The 4:23 version fades :08 early, and it does seem odd they would bother to fade it early.
Which library did the 9201 to 9208 discs belong to? I noticed they also have 9106 to 9108 in their database, which seems random.
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My 9208 disc just says TM Century GoldDisc3.
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Yes, none of the discs were specifically labeled for a particular library, but I know firsthand from working in radio many years that certain number sets were intended for certain formats. The 900 series, for example, was for Hot AC. Many of the discs in the 100 & 200 series were CHR. The 500 series was classic rock, and so on.
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aaronk wrote:
Which library did the 9201 to 9208 discs
belong to? I noticed they also have 9106 to 9108 in
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database, which seems random. |
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I have quite a few of that series, most of the stuff on
them seems pretty AC-ish. The 91xx are all songs from
1991, likewise the 92xx series is all from '92. It's
almost like it was issued as a recurrent series. We were
an AC station, so maybe there were 91xx and 92xx discs
for other formats too. Not sure how long it
continued...the station mine came from transitioned to
BPI Chartbreakers around '93.
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aaronk wrote:
As for the version that has the edited intro, I believe
that version was done by TM Century, appearing originally
on HitDisc 972A. It was subsequently included on GoldDisc
944 in their Hot AC library. |
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I've carried that 'edited' version for years in my DJ
library not even thinking twice of looking in Pat's
database to realize it was never an official edit. lol.
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John, up until a day ago, Pat listed 3:51 as one of the DJ edits in the song notes. He removed it given the new information I was able to supply.
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bwolfe wrote:
We never cared for the "edit".
When heard on the radio it made me think that the air personality should say "we now join Whitney Houston already in progress."
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Edited by Loveland on 22 March 2020 at 9:24pm
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aaronk wrote:
John, up until a day ago, Pat listed 3:51 as one of the DJ edits in the song notes. He removed it given the new information I was able to supply. |
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So is the 3:51 a real radio edit? Or is the 4:30 we all know and love the correct version....
You said you supplied some info Aaron. What did you supply?
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Hi Rich, I believe this is the information Aaron supplied
to Pat:
As for the version that has the edited intro, I believe
that version was done by TM Century, appearing originally
on HitDisc 972A. It was subsequently included on GoldDisc
944 in their Hot AC library.
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When the song was a current hit I always remembered hearing it with the shorter ending. In fact when I finally heard the full ending it was quite jarring! The version with the intro cut off came quite a while later, when the song was entering recurrent status and stations were growing tired of playing a song with such a long, slow intro.
They did the same thing with songs like Seal's "Kiss From a Rose" and Melissa Etheridge's "Come to My Window" -- initially playing the full-length version, and then later playing the edited version.
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