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EdisonLite MusicFan
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Posted: 05 June 2011 at 10:39pm | IP Logged
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The TM Century database lists all their entries for "Cooler Than Me" as "single mix", which implies it's different than the album mix. (They also list a "remix" by Mike Posner feat. Jim Jones but I'm not enquiring about that version.) How does the "single mix" differ from the album mix? I only have the album version (on CD) and I don't recall ever hearing any single mix that differs from the album. Anyone know? (Aaron, this seems like it would be up your alley :)
In the database, Pat notes that on the album the song tracks into the next song (slightly). I notice that this version has 2 more "pulses" at the fadeout, than a version a friend has (which may be from TM Century), but other than those extra 2 pulses on the album version (before the song completely fades out), I can't hear any differences.
Edited by EdisonLite on 05 June 2011 at 10:44pm
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aaronk Admin Group
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I don't own the Mike Posner album to compare, but I'm sure your assessment is correct. The single was released several months before the album, so if there was another mix that was intended for the album, perhaps it was shelved.
Edited by aaronk on 06 June 2011 at 8:50am
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Follow up, from Wikipedia: The original version features Cooler Than Me - Mike Posner & the Brain Trust Ft. Big Sean. They were later removed on the single mix.
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Brian W. MusicFan
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Well, on iTunes, the album does say "Single Mix" for "Cooler Than Me." I did buy the stand-alone single on iTunes, which did say "Single Mix" on the cover, so if you need to hear it let me know.
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Hykker MusicFan
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Promo Only shows it as being a "clean edit", which implies some lyrical content in the album version being deemed risque.
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mainrhythm MusicFan
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The original Cooler Than Me wasn't dancey like the version that went on to become a hit. I believe the dancey, hit version was remixed by Gigamesh.
Edited by mainrhythm on 06 June 2011 at 8:20am
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aaronk Admin Group
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Posted: 06 June 2011 at 8:56am | IP Logged
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Hykker wrote:
Promo Only shows it as being a "clean edit", which implies some lyrical content in the album version being deemed risque. |
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Although I'm not sure what was edited from "Cooler Than Me," this is one of the reasons I'm not a big fan of Promo Only in the last several years. They often times make their own clean edits, and some of the things they edit are totally ridiculous. For example, they removed the word "boobies" in Usher's "OMG." In other cases, I've heard them edit out the words "hell" and "damn." Personally, I'd rather them just leave the songs the way they are issued by the record companies.
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mainrhythm MusicFan
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I know there's a sh!t in there, but don't have the original to compare.
On the single mix he says "you wear 'em around like it ain't shhh(turntable/tape stop effect)
On the Promo Only Mainstream Radio clean edit, they edited it so it says "you wear 'em around like it ain't it" It's kind of abrupt but it sounds fine.
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EdisonLite MusicFan
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Wow - I leave a question on this board last night, and I wake up to find 7 responses in the morning. This is what I love about this board!
Very interesting info. I'll have to check for the "s" word on what I have (the album). If it is just "shhhh", I wonder where the actual word appears.
Brian, if you could send me an mp3 of the single mix, I'll compare the 2 versions for any real mix differences.
Mainrhythm, do you (or anyone else here) have a copy of the original, non-dancey version of the song? I'd love to hear that!
And does anyone know - this non-dancey original version - would that be the same version that includes the Brain Trust Ft. Big Sean? Or are there 2 completely different early versions of this song?
Many bios of Mike Posner indicate that he's a rapper, but I didn't find him rapping on "Cooler Than Me" and I'm not sure he does anywhere on the album, which is kind of odd if he did indeed start out as a rapper.
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mainrhythm MusicFan
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Posted: 06 June 2011 at 11:23am | IP Logged
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Yes, original is Brain Trust & Big Sean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O51ntaeD8kQ
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Man, that shhhh (turntable slow down effect) is horrible! Of course, I personally don't care for the hit version either.
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EdisonLite MusicFan
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Wow, that original version is very different - even the lyrics, like the line ...
"You're so vain. You prob'ly think this song is about you. Don't you? Don't you?" (And even the "about you - don't you - don't you" has the Carly Simon melody!) For the sake of the would-be impending lawsuit, it's a good thing he took that part out!
As for the editing of the word "sh**", the swear word is not on the album version either, so I don't think any "clean" edits are different than any other version.
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Paul Haney,
Cooler Than Me by Mike Posner in 2010 does not run 3:45. My guess is that Whitburn is referring to the 3:45 version which includes Big Sean (as mentioned in this post) that was not the one that shot up the charts in 2010, but the release in 2009.
https://www.discogs.com/Mike-Posner-Cooler-Than-Me-EP/releas e/9677463
The correct time is 3:32, which is the version which appears on Now 35 and is known as the "Single Mix". This is also the promo only edit. I recently realized there is a clean and unclean version of this song (I say unclean because it really isn't explicit but it implies it). I just fixed it in my collection because the edited takes out the sh and it goes to the it...while the album version leaves in the shhh...without the it.
Edisonlite was correct there is no curse word. As for Paul Haney, my hope is you will correct the time based on what I pointed out....
Edited by PopArchivist on 09 April 2020 at 7:40pm
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PopArchivist wrote:
Paul Haney, my hope is you will
correct the time based on what I pointed out.... |
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Done! Thanks again!
Edited by Paul Haney on 10 April 2020 at 4:26am
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