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Posted: 30 July 2011 at 12:09pm | IP Logged Quote prisdeej

The version listed as 'Radio Edit' on TM Century has the edited intro
but does include 'Baby, Baby, Baby, Baby', overlapping the piano.

I remember another 45 edit that started right with the piano. Was
this another edit used on a promotional CD?



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Posted: 30 July 2011 at 1:25pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Yes, there is a promo cd that has a version without the "baby, baby..."
intro. This is the version my top 40 station used to play, and it's called
something like "Piano Intro."

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Posted: 30 July 2011 at 9:56pm | IP Logged Quote mainrhythm

Neither mix on the copy I have has the Baby Baby in the intro

1. Radio Edit (actual) 3:40
:06 intro to ooohh then vocal at :15

2. Piano Intro (actual) 3:40
:07 intro to vocal
slightly more compressed than track 1

both fade out a tiny bit different too
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Posted: 30 July 2011 at 10:14pm | IP Logged Quote prisdeej

Interesting, mainrhythm. Their must be two promos. Cut 1 from your copy is the version I remember on-air.

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Posted: 31 July 2011 at 7:23am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Yes, cut 1 is also what we played on the air. I also remember having
to cue in a few seconds because there was blank space at the
beginning of the track. The "baby, baby..." was removed from the mix,
and the blank space is where that vocal would have been.

I have the other promo with 4 tracks, and I'll post its details shortly.

Edited by aaronk on 31 July 2011 at 2:39pm


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Posted: 31 July 2011 at 8:15am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

MCA5P-90100
1. Radio Edit (3:50 listed; 3:45 actual)
2. LP Version (5:32 listed; 5:30 actual)
3. Instrumental (3:50 listed; 3:46 actual)
4. A Cappella (4:54 listed; 4:51 actual)

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Posted: 11 April 2012 at 12:56pm | IP Logged Quote prisdeej

Bumping this back up for the pure purpose of finding the catalog # for the
two track promo that mainrhythm listed.

1. Radio Edit (3:40)
2. Piano Intro (3:40)

If anyone has this copy could you please provide the info. Thanks!


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Posted: 11 April 2012 at 6:51pm | IP Logged Quote mainrhythm

It was a thermal printed CD-R. Don't think there was a number.

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Posted: 11 April 2012 at 8:02pm | IP Logged Quote prisdeej

Thanks for the info, mainrhythm.

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i have a promo cd single for the song "all my life" by k-
ci & jo jo with NO catalog number issued by MCA with only
one track titled "wedding mix" and runs 5:16....the promo
cd single is a factory silver backed cd, so it's
legit......it starts with piano intro for the first 0:22
of the song.....then at the 0:22 mark he states something
inaudible.....then at the 0:30 he sings "i would never
find another lover..."....if anyone needs a copy of this
version for their review just drop me an
email.....edtop40@yahoo.com.........i also have the
commercial cd single issued as mca 55420 with a non
described version as track one with a listed run time of
5:31 but only runs 5:30.......it starts with a harp or
some string instrument for the first 0:36 of the song,
then they start singing "baby, baby, baby..." at the 0:36
mark of the song......hope this helps.....

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Posted: 11 April 2012 at 8:37pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

prisdeej...i just sent you a wave file for your review....

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Posted: 11 April 2012 at 9:14pm | IP Logged Quote prisdeej

Thanks, Ed. It seems here that MCA sent 2 other promo CDs to radio without a catalog
number.   You have one with just the "Wedding Mix", and mainrhythm has the other one
which is the 2 track Radio Edit & Piano Intro.   

Please note the Radio Edit on mainrhythm's promo is NOT the same Radio Edit on the 4
track promo MCA5P-90100, which Aaron listed previously.

Is this common practice for the labels to send dj copies to radio without catalog
numbers?

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Posted: 11 April 2012 at 11:12pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

That's correct, Dave. The Radio Edit on the CD-R does not have the "baby, baby, baby..." vocals on the intro. Other than that, I believe the rest of the track does match up.

By the way, the Radio Edit from the CD-R was issued on a Promo Only Mainstream Radio disc.

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prisdeej wrote:
Is this common practice for the labels to send dj copies
to radio without catalog numbers?
Dave, if my memory serves, at
around the time of "All My Life", many of the labels started this practice,
especially for "2nd/3rd different-serviced promo CD singles" for a song.
But without the "promo stock #s" associated with these discs since their
inception, it certainly makes it much harder for "geeks like us" :)   to
document/track down these specific promo items. It made tons of sense
from the label's point-of-view, however. These "officially released by the
label, CD-Rs" were often (though not always) digital clones, far
quicker/cheaper for them to produce, 98%+ the same quality as
"standard, factory-made" promos, in the short-term. This was also right
around the time when the majority of CHR radio had switched over to
playing music on-air from their station computer's music database, as
opposed to loading/playing the actual promo CD singles on-air, as had
been the norm since around 1989. So these CD-Rs often had to "hold up"
just long enough for stations to do a "one time load-in" to their system.
Longer-term durability on these? Definitely not as good, but I bet that was
also viewed as a good thing by the labels. Hell, if these CD-Rs "self-
destructed" in a couple of years, even better, right? The labels had long
ago moved on to other projects. Hope this helps, kind sir!

Edited by jimct on 13 April 2012 at 4:23am
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Posted: 13 April 2012 at 1:20pm | IP Logged Quote prisdeej

As always thanks for the insight, Jim.

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