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The following is a list of every single that peaked on the Billboard Top 40 chart in 1971 (based on Joel Whitburn's Pop Annual 1955-1999 publication) and also includes the Top 40 hits Pat has included in the database based a composite of other music charts. Through a collaborative effort with my partner-in-crime Jim (a.k.a. "jimct"), we've made our best effort to determine whether the corresponding commercial 45 release for each single was issued in mono or stereo. This list only accounts for original 45 releases and not later re-issues.
I have posted a mono/stereo 45 list for each year from 1968-1975 (see links below) and hope forum members and fellow music collectors will find these lists to be a useful reference guide. I also highly encourage anyone to let me know if there are any errors, inaccuracies, or omissions so that I can make the necessary corrections.
Mono and Stereo Commercial 45 Releases of Top 40 Singles from 1971
Anderson, Lynn - "Rose Garden" (mono)
Ashton, Gardner & Dyke - "Resurrection Shuffle" (stereo)
Baez, Joan - "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" (mono)
Bee Gees, The - "How Can You Mend a Broken Heart" (mono)
Bee Gees - "Lonely Days" (mono)
Beginning of the End, The - "Funky Nassau-Part I" (mono)
Bells, The - "Stay Awhile" (mono)
Blood, Sweat & Tears - "Go Down Gamblin'" (stereo)
Bloodrock - "D.O.A." (stereo)
Bread - "Baby I'm - a Want You" (stereo)
Bread - "If" (mono)
Bread - "Let Your Love Go" (mono)
Bread - "Mother Freedom" (mono)
Brenda & the Tabulations - "Right on the Tip of My Tongue" (mono)
Brewer & Shipley - "One Toke over the Line" (stereo)
Brown, James - "Escape-ism (Part 1)" (mono)
Brown, James - "Get up, Get Into It, Get Involved Pt. I" (mono)
Brown, James - "Hot Pants Pt. 1 (She Got to Use What She Got to Get What She Wants)" (mono)
Brown, James - "I'm a Greedy Man - Part I" (mono)
Brown, James - "Make It Funky (Part 1)" (mono)
Brown, James - "Soul Power Pt. 1" (mono)
Buoys, The - "Timothy" (mono)
Campbell, Glen - "Dream Baby (How Long Must I Dream)" (stereo)
Carpenters - "For All We Know" (stereo)
Carpenters - "Rainy Days and Mondays" (stereo)
Carpenters - "Superstar" (stereo)
Cassidy, David - "Cherish" (mono)
C Company featuring Terry Nelson - "Battle Hymn of Lt. Calley" (mono)
Chairmen of the Board - "Chairman of the Board" (mono)
Chairmen of the Board - "Pay to the Piper" (mono)
Charles, Ray - "Don't Change on Me" (mono)
Charles, Ray, Orchestra, The - "Booty Butt" (mono)
Chase - "Get It On" (mono)
Cher - "Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves" (mono)
Chicago - "Beginnings" (mono)
Chicago - "Colour My World" (mono)
Chicago - "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?" (mono)
Chicago - "Free" (stereo)
Chicago - "Lowdown" (stereo)
Chicago - "Questions 67 and 68" (stereo)
Chi-Lites, The - "(For God's Sake) Give More Power to the People" (stereo)
Chi-Lites, The - "Have You Seen Her" (stereo)
Clay, Tom - "What the World Needs Now Is Love/Abraham, Martin and John" (mono)
Cocker, Joe - "High Time We Went" (mono)
Cocker, Joe - "Black-Eyed Blues" (mono)
Collins, Dave and Ansil - "Double Barrel" (mono)
Collins, Judy - "Amazing Grace" (stereo)
Como, Perry - "It's Impossible" (stereo)
Cooper, Alice - "Eighteen" (stereo)
Cornelius Brothers & Sister Rose - "Treat Her Like a Lady" (stereo)
Coven - "One Tin Soldier, The Legend of Billy Jack" (stereo)
Crane, Les - "Desiderata" (stereo)
Creedence Clearwater Revival - "Have You Ever Seen the Rain" (mono)
Creedence Clearwater Revival - "Hey Tonight" (mono)
Creedence Clearwater Revival - "Sweet Hitch-hiker" (mono)
Curb, Mike, Congregation - "Burning Bridges" (mono)
Cymarron - "Rings" (mono)
Daddy Dewdrop - "Chick-a-Boom (Don't Ya Jes' Love It)" (mono)
Damon('s), Liz, Orient Express - "1900 Yesterday" (mono)
Dawn - "I Play and Sing" (mono)
Dawn - "Knock Three Times" (mono)
Dawn - "Summer Sand" (mono)
Dawn featuring Tony Orlando - "What Are You Doing Sunday" (mono)
Delaney & Bonnie - "Only You Know and I Know" (mono)
Delaney & Bonnie & Friends - "Never Ending Song of Love" (mono)
Dells, The - "The Love We Had (Stays on My Mind)" (mono)
Denver, John, with Fat City - "Take Me Home, Country Roads" (stereo)
Diamond, Neil - "Crunchy Granola Suite" (stereo)
Diamond, Neil - "I Am...I Said" (mono)
Diamond, Neil - "Stones" (stereo)
Doors, The - "Love Her Madly" (stereo)
Doors, The - "Riders on the Storm" (stereo)
Dramatics, The - "Whatcha See Is Whatcha Get" (mono)
Dylan, Bob - "Watching the River Flow" (mono)
Edmunds, Dave - "I Hearing You Knocking" (mono)
8th Day, The - "She's Not Just Another Woman" (mono)
8th Day, The - "You've Got to Crawl (Before You Walk)" (mono)
Elbert, Donnie - "Where Did Our Love Go" (mono)
Elliman, Yvonne - "I Don't Know How to Love Him" (stereo)
Fanny - "Charity Ball" (stereo)
5th Dimension, The - "Light Sings" (mono)
5th Dimension, The - "Love's Lines, Angles, and Rhymes" (mono)
5th Dimension, The - "Never My Love" (mono)
Five Man Electrical Band - "Absolutely Right" (stereo)
Five Man Electrical Band - "Signs" (mono & stereo)
Flack, Roberta, & Donny Hathaway - "You've Got a Friend" (mono)
Floyd, King - "Baby Let Me Kiss You" (mono)
Floyd, King - "Groove Me" (mono)
Fortunes, The - "Here Comes That Rainy Day Feeling Again" (stereo)
Four Tops - "Just Seven Numbers (Can Straighten out My Life)" (mono)
Four Tops - "MacArthur Park (Part II)" (mono)
Franklin, Aretha - "Bridge over Troubled Water" (mono)
Franklin, Aretha - "Brand New Me" (mono)
Franklin, Aretha - "Rock Steady" (mono)
Franklin, Aretha - "Spanish Harlem" (mono)
Franklin, Aretha - "You're All I Need to Get By" (mono)
Free Movement, The - "I've Found Someone of My Own" (stereo)
Fuzz, The - "I Love You for All Seasons" (mono)
Gaye, Marvin - "Inner City Blues (Make Me Wanna Holler)" (mono)
Gaye, Marvin - "Mercy Mercy Me (The Ecology)" (mono)
Gaye, Marvin - "What's Going On" (mono)
Glass Bottle, The - "I Ain't Got Time Anymore" (mono)
Goldsboro, Bobby - "Watching Scotty Grow" (stereo)
Grass Roots, The - "Sooner or Later" (mono)
Grass Roots, The - "Temptation Eyes" (mono)
Grass Roots, The - "Two Divided by Love" (mono)
Green, Al - "Tired of Being Alone" (mono)
Guess Who, The - "Albert Flasher" (stereo)
Guess Who, The - "Hang on to Your Life" (stereo)
Guess Who, The - "Rain Dance" (stereo)
Hamilton, Joe Frank & Reynolds - "Don't Pull Your Love" (mono)
Harrison, George - "Bangla-desh" (stereo)
Harrison, George - "Deep Blue" (stereo)
Harrison, George - "What Is Life" (stereo)
Hart, Freddie - "Easy Loving" (stereo)
Havens, Richie - "Here Comes the Sun" (mono)
Hayes, Isaac - "Never Can Say Goodbye" (mono)
Hayes, Isaac - "Theme from Shaft" (mono & stereo)
Head, Murray - "Superstar" (stereo)
Honey Cone, The - "Want Ads" (mono)
Honey Cone, The - "Stick-Up" (mono)
Humphrey, Paul, & His Cool Aid Chemists - "Cool Aid" (mono)
Isley Brothers, The - "Love the One You're With" (mono)
Isley Brothers, The - "Spill the Wine" (mono)
Jackson, Michael - "Got to Be There" (mono & stereo)
Jackson 5, The - "Mama's Pearl" (mono)
Jackson 5, The - "Maybe Tomorrow" (mono)
Jackson 5, The - "Never Can Say Goodbye" (mono)
James Gang, The - "Walk Away" (stereo)
James, Tommy - "Draggin' the Line" (mono)
James, Tommy - "I'm Comin' Home" (mono)
James, Tommy - "Nothing to Hide" (mono)
John, Elton - "Friends" (mono)
John, Elton - "Your Song" (mono)
Jones, Tom - "Puppet Man" (mono)
Jones, Tom - "Resurrection Shuffle" (mono)
Jones, Tom - "She's a Lady" (mono)
Jones, Tom - "Till" (mono)
Joplin, Janis - "Cry Baby" (stereo)
Joplin, Janis - "Me and Bobby McGee" (stereo)
King, B.B. - "Ask Me No Questions" (mono)
King, Carole - "I Feel the Earth Move" (mono and stereo)
King, Carole - "It's Too Late" (mono and stereo)
King, Carole - "Smackwater Jack" (mono)
King, Carole - "So Far Away" (mono)
Kinks, The - "Apeman" (mono)
Kissoon, Mac and Katie - "Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep" (mono)
Knight, Gladys, & the Pips - "I Don't Want to Do Wrong" (mono)
Knight, Gladys, & the Pips - "If I Were Your Woman" (mono)
Knight, Jean - "Mr. Big Stuff" (mono)
Kristofferson, Kris - "Loving Her Was Easier (Than Anything I'll Ever Do Again)" (mono)
Lai, Francis - "Theme from Love Story" (stereo)
LaSalle, Denise - "Trapped by a Thing Called Love" (mono)
Led Zeppelin - Immigrant Song" (stereo)
Lee, Laura - "Women's Love Rights" (mono)
Lennon, John/Plastic Ono Band - "Imagine" (stereo)
Lennon, John/Plastic Ono Band - "Mother" (mono)
Lennon, John/Plastic Ono Band - "Power to the People" (stereo)
Lightfoot, Gordon - "If You Could Read My Mind" (mono and stereo)
Lighthouse - "One Fine Morning" (mono)
Little Sister - "Somebody's Watching You" (mono)
Lobo - "Me and You and a Dog Named Boo" (mono)
Mancini, Henry, and His Orchestra - "(Theme from) Love Story" (mono)
Matthews' Southern Comfort - "Woodstock" (stereo)
Mayfield, Curtis - "(Don't Worry) If There's a Hell Below We're All Going to Go" (mono)
McCartney, Paul - "Another Day" (stereo)
McCartney, Paul - "Oh Woman Oh Why" (stereo)
McCartney, Paul & Linda - "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey" (stereo)
McGuinness Flint - "When I'm Dead and Gone" (stereo)
Melanie - "Brand New Key" (mono)
Michaels, Lee - "Can I Get a Witness" (mono)
Michaels, Lee - "Do You Know What I Mean" (mono)
Moody Blues, The "The Story in Your Eyes" (stereo)
Moore, Jackie - "Precious, Precious" (mono)
Morrison, Van - "Blue Money" (mono)
Morrison, Van - "Domino" (stereo)
Morrison, Van - "Wild Night" (stereo)
Nash, Graham - "Chicago" (mono)
Nero, Peter - "Theme from "Summer of '42"" (stereo)
Nesmith, Michael, & the First National Band - "Silver Moon" (stereo)
Newton-John, Olivia - "If Not for You" (mono)
Nilsson - "Me and My Arrow" (stereo)
Nite-Liters, The - "K-Jee" (stereo)
Nitty Gritty Dirt Band - "Mr. Bojangles" (stereo)
North, Freddie - "She's All I Got" (stereo)
Ocean - "Put Your Hand in the Hand" (mono)
Osmond, Donny - "Go Away Little Girl" (mono)
Osmond, Donny, of the Osmonds - "Sweet and Innocent" (mono)
Osmonds, The - "Double Lovin'" (mono)
Osmonds, The - "One Bad Apple" (mono & stereo)
Osmonds, The - "Yo-Yo" (mono)
Partridge Family, The, starring Shirley Jones featuring David Cassidy - "Doesn't Somebody Want to Be Wanted" (mono)
Partridge Family, The, starring Shirley Jones featuring David Cassidy - "I Woke up in Love This Morning" (mono)
Partridge Family, The, starring Shirley Jones featuring David Cassidy - "I'll Meet You Halfway" (mono)
Payne, Freda - "Bring the Boys Home" (mono)
Payne, Freda - "Cherish What Is Dear to You (While It's Near to You)" (mono)
People's Choice - "I Likes to Do It" (mono)
Persuaders, The - "Thin Line Between Love & Hate" (mono)
Pickett, Wilson - "Don't Knock My Love - Pt. 1" (mono)
Pickett, Wilson - "Don't Let the Green Grass Fool You" (mono)
Presley, Elvis - "I Really Don't Want to Know" (mono)
Presley, Elvis - "I'm Leavin'" (mono)
Presley, Elvis - "Rags to Riches" (mono)
Presley, Elvis - "There Goes My Everything" (mono)
Presley, Elvis - "Where Did They Go, Lord" (mono)
Price, Ray - "For the Good Times" (mono)
Raiders - "Birds of a Feather" (stereo)
Raiders - "Indian Reservation (The Lament of the Cherrokee Reservation Indian)" (stereo)
Rare Earth - "Born to Wander" (mono)
Rare Earth - "I Just Want to Celebrate" (mono)
Rawls, Lou - "A Natural Man" (stereo)
Reddy, Helen - "I Don't Know How to Love Him" (stereo)
Redeye - "Games" (stereo)
Reed, Jerry - "Amos Moses" (mono)
Reed, Jerry - "When You're Hot, You're Hot" (mono)
Robinson, Smokey, & the Miracles - "I Don't Blame You at All" (mono)
Roe, Tommy - "Stagger Lee" (mono)
Rolling Stones, The - "Brown Sugar" (mono)
Rolling Stones, The - "Wild Horses" (mono)
Ross, Diana - "Reach out I'll Be There" (mono)
Ross, Diana - "Remember Me" (mono)
Ross, Diana - "Surrender" (mono)
Runt - "We Gotta Get You a Woman" (mono)
Russell, Bobby - "Saturday Morning Confusion" (stereo)
Santana - "Black Magic Woman" (stereo)
Santana - "Everybody's Everything" (stereo)
Santana - "Oye Como Va" (stereo)
Sherman, Bobby - "Cried Like a Baby" (stereo)
Sherman, Bobby - "The Drum" (stereo)
Simon, Carly - "That's the Way I've Always Heard It Should Be" (stereo)
Simon, Joe - "Your Time to Cry" (mono)
Sly & the Family Stone - "Family Affair" (stereo)
Smith, Sammi - "Help Me Make It Through the Night" (mono and stereo)
Sonny & Cher - "All I Ever Need Is You" (stereo)
Sounds of Sunshine - "Love Means (You Never Have to Say You're Sorry)" (stereo)
Stampeders - "Sweet City Woman" (mono)
Staple Singers, The - "Heavy Makes You Happy (Sha-Na-Boom Boom)" (mono)
Staple Singers, The - "Respect Yourself" (mono)
Starr, Edwin - "Stop the War Now" (mono)
Starr, Ringo - "It Don't Come Easy" (stereo)
Stevens, Cat - "Moon Shadow" (stereo)
Stevens, Cat - "Peace Train" (stereo)
Stevens, Cat - "Wild World" (mono & stereo)
Stewart, Rod - "Maggie May" (mono)
Stewart, Rod - "Reason to Believe" (mono)
Stewart, Rod, with Faces - "(I Know) I'm Losing You" (mono)
Stills, Stephen - "Change Partners" (mono)
Stills, Stephen - "Love the One You're With" (mono)
Stills, Stephen - "Sit Yourself Down" (mono)
Stills, Stephen - "Marianne" (mono)
Stookey, Paul - "Wedding Song (There Is Love)" (stereo)
Streisand, Barbra - "Stoney End" (stereo)
Streisand, Barbra - "Where You Lead" (stereo)
Stylistics, The - "Stop, Look, Listen (to Your Heart)" (mono)
Supremes, The - "Nathan Jones" (mono)
Supremes, The, & Four Tops - "River Deep - Mountain High" (mono)
Sweathog - "Hallelujah" (stereo)
Taylor, James - "Country Road" (stereo)
Taylor, James - "Long Ago and Far Away" (stereo)
Taylor, James - "You've Got a Friend" (stereo)
Taylor, Johnnie - "Jody's Got Your Girl and Gone" (mono)
Temptations, The - "Just My Imagination (Running Away with Me)" (mono)
Temptations, The - "Superstar (Remember How You Got Where You Are)" (mono)
Ten Years After - "I'd Love to Change the World" (stereo)
Thomas, B.J. - "Mighty Clouds of Joy" (mono)
Thomas, B.J. - "Most of All" (mono)
Thomas, B.J. - "No Love at All" (mono)
Thomas, Rufus - "Breakdown, The (Part I)" (mono)
Thomas, Rufus - "(Do the) Push and Pull Part I" (mono)
Three Dog Night - "Joy to the World" (mono)
Three Dog Night - "Liar" (mono)
Three Dog Night - "An Old Fashioned Love Song" (mono & stereo)
Three Dog Night - "One Man Band" (stereo)
Tin Tin - "Toast and Marmalade for Tea" (mono)
Turner, Ike & Tina - "Proud Mary" (stereo)
Undisputed Truth, The - "Smiling Faces Sometimes" (mono)
Wadsworth Mansion - "Sweet Mary" (mono)
War - "All Day Music" (stereo)
Who, The - "Behind Blue Eyes" (stereo)
Who, The - "Won't Get Fooled Again (stereo)
Williams, Andy - "(Where Do I Begin) Love Story" (stereo)
Withers, Bill - "Ain't No Sunshine" (mono)
Withers, Bill - "Grandma's Hands" (mono)
Wonder, Stevie - "If You Really Love Me" (mono)
Wonder, Stevie - "We Can Work It Out" (mono)
Yes - "Your Move" (mono)
Click this link for: List of Mono and Stereo 45s - 1968
Click this link for: List of Mono and Stereo 45s - 1969
Click this link for: List of Mono and Stereo 45s - 1970
Click this link for: List of Mono and Stereo 45s - 1972
Click this link for: List of Mono and Stereo 45s - 1973
Click this link for: List of Mono and Stereo 45s - 1974
Click this link for: List of Mono and Stereo 45s - 1975
Edited by Todd Ireland on 24 February 2012 at 9:34pm
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KentT MusicFan
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Laura Lee/ Women's Love Rights is in Mono.
Paul Stookey's Wedding Song (There Is Love) is Stereo
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Thanks, KentT, for being right on top of those remaining stragglers once again!
That leaves only two more entries needing notations for 1971...
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Great to see these lists, Todd! I am sure you are computing the mono/stereo
ratio for 1971 as I write this. hehe.
I am sure we will see a substantial step forward in stereo for 1972 and even
more for 1973. 1974 will see few mono I predict.
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Kinks, The - "Apeman" (mono)
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Todd, a couple questions:
When a 45 isn't listed as stereo or mono, I'm sure you listen to make your determination, but when a 45 DOES have a designation, do you take it as the gospel truth or listen anyway to confirm? (And have there ever been errors?) I think of all the wrong times listed on labels so I wonder if there are wrong stereo/mono designations listed, too.
Also, when several singles by one artist are released in a year, and your findings show certain singles in mono and other singles in stereo, is there always a chronological trend from mono to stereo, or is it more random, like a single being stereo but then the artist's next single being in mono?
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Both sides of my commercial 45 copy with these two titles are mono:
King, Carole - "I Feel the Earth Move" (stereo)
King, Carole - "It's Too Late" (stereo)
And conversely, this one's stereo:
Lightfoot, Gordon - "If You Could Read My Mind" (mono)
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Perhaps, owners of the mono 45's could indicate whether they are dedicated mono mixes or fold-downs. Is that a possibility or would that entail too much work?
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Gordon Lightfoot- If You Can Read My Mind is Stereo on my Pitman, NJ Columbia made 45 single.
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Thanks for all this work! These lists will help me with my
collection and when I do my comps.
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I can also confirm that "Apeman" is mono and is a dedicated mono mix. (They mixed the vocals louder so you can clearly hear that he is singing "Foggin up my eyes" instead of the assumed profanity many people think they hear on the stereo version.
As far as determining fold downs or dedicated mono mixes for anything released in 1971, a lot of it would be guess work unless we know of a thread where the producer states that the track is a simple fold down.
You might have only been referring to just the Gordon Lightfoot and Carole King releases above.
But if you look at the full list in determining the fold downs that might exist from that year, my guesses on two of the Grass Roots songs above are that Sooner or Later and Two Divided by Love are fold downs.
We know for sure that Temptation Eyes is a dedicated mono mix.
There is a third option starting in 1968 and continuing into the early 70's, songs which are CSG mono and are technically a fold down, but have some manipulation done by the CSG device. CSG processing was sometimes marked on 45s, sometimes not.
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EdisonLite wrote:
When a 45 isn't listed as stereo or mono, I'm sure
you listen to make your determination, but when a 45 DOES have a
designation, do you take it as the gospel truth or listen anyway to
confirm? (And have there ever been errors?) I think of all the wrong times
listed on labels so I wonder if there are wrong stereo/mono designations
listed, too.
Also, when several singles by one artist are released in a year, and your
findings show certain singles in mono and other singles in stereo, is there
always a chronological trend from mono to stereo, or is it more random,
like a single being stereo but then the artist's next single being in mono?
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Gordon, a stereo/mono designation appearing on a 45 label or
not, I always have and will always ignore them. My stereo/mono reports
are 100% based on actually listening to the 45s. That being said, I've
noticed a high (98%+) reliabilty rate when it says stereo, that it actually is
stereo. The lone exception to me is 1971-72 Top 40 hits on the
"Westbound" label, where mono actually appeared on a majority of their
stated stereo 45s. As far as a "once an artist starts issuing stereo 45s,
does it then stay that way?", Todd and I discussed this on the phone just
last night. My experience is "no". From my many years in radio, my sense
was that the first (and often the second) choices to release from an LP as
singles (the strongest tracks) were less apt to be initially remixed, in the
70s, and even throughout the 80s. But as the labels went deeper into an
LP for singles, say for a 3rd or 4th single, these cuts were more likely to
be candidates for "remixing/strengthening/beefing up" by the labels,
simply becuase they weren't a strong a single candidate as the last hit(s)
were. There were exceptions, though. "Singles" bands like Three Dog
Night almost always reworked their songs for 45 release, no matter. And
James Brown went back and forth a couple of different times, as to issuing
stereo/mono 45s. And finally, while I can appreciate good folks like David
Clark and John Gallagher really desiring still more 45 details to be
provided, such as "is it a fold-down or dedicated mix" info, I 100% agree
with the opinion offered earlier in this post by longtime pro Bill Cahill
that, 1) It is near-impossible to determine accurately, and, 2) It would
simply take a million years to attempt to analyze thousands of 45s that
way! Think about it. Any of us could try to listen back and forth, to both
the 45/LP versions of just one single song, for as long as a full hour, and
still only be "fairly sure" of our report. I realize why folks want to know
this, but to me it is an extremely impractical/undo-able request. To even
provide what Todd has been providing to us between 1968-74 is already
a such a huge undertaking, that no one I know has ever even tried to take
it on before! I am personally just *so* happy to have all the many new
details we find here. These "can we have this, too?" requests do truly
sadden me a bit, truth be told. To me, the best clue on this issue is to
probably hone in on the individual labels' policy on the matter. Like the
recent Roy Orbison Monument singles collection found, label owner Fred
Foster seemed to mostly favor fold-downs; my conclusion would then be
that "Mexico" by Bob Moore, also a hit on Monument during that same
era, would also have been a fold down. Peace!
Edited by jimct on 01 February 2012 at 12:34am
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Thanks Yah Shure, KentT, and Bill Cahill for the updates!
davidclark wrote:
Great to see these lists, Todd! I am sure you are computing the mono/stereo ratio for 1971 as I write this. hehe. |
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Here's the percentage (rounded to the nearest tenth) of Top 40 commercial 45s issued in stereo by year:
1971: 35.7%
1970: 26.9%
1969: 19.1%
1968: 3.1%
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Another outstanding job, Paul! Thanks!
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Todd, I didn't recall you ever bringing up to me needing the Isleys' "Spill The
Wine" info, either by e-mail or phone recently - the first I'm seeing of it is
here now, as the last 1971 straggler! Had it the whole time, buddy - here are
the particulars: (mono; L 2:40; A 2:39).
(PS-As 1972 is next, I have stock 45s for all of them, but one is currently
AWOL: Joe Cocker-"Feelin' Alright" (A&M 1063). If anyone has a stock 45 they
could help report mono or stereo for, that's gonna be our only straggler -
thanks!)
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Yah Shure MusicFan
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jimct wrote:
(PS-As 1972 is next, I have stock 45s for all of them, but one is currently
AWOL: Joe Cocker-"Feelin' Alright" (A&M 1063). If anyone has a stock 45 they
could help report mono or stereo for, that's gonna be our only straggler -
thanks!) |
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Break out the Straggler-B-Gon, Jim: A&M 1063 is mono.
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jimct wrote:
Any of us could try to listen back and forth, to both
the 45/LP versions of just one single song, for as long as a full hour, and
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Ain't that the truth! Even some of the minute mix differences some have pointed out in various songs others have trouble hearing. Not to mention differences of a given song between pressing plants (the recent thread on "You Know What I Mean" for example) this would be an impossible task.
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When I first read John's "dedicated mono mixes or fold-downs" query yesterday, my first impulse was to answer his "Is that a possibility or would that entail too much work?" question with a resounding "too much work!!" I decided to hold off on answering to see if others shared that assessment. Bill, Jim and Steve all summed up the situation perfectly.
Should anyone ever be brave enough to undertake such a time-consuming project, a communal approach might ultimately prove to be more workable, as Todd has demonstrated with the rest of us filling in the missing stereo/mono 45 blanks. It might take a l-o-n-g time to whittle down the lists, but at least it would be a start.
One more caveat: The need to have both the 45 and LP track for comparison.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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I would not be at all opposed to getting a "Dedicated Mono Mixes vs. Fold-downs" thread going at some point, but definitely agree it would have to be a widespread community effort. I don't see any way one person could handle it all!
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Jim, thanks for the insight about the accuracy of labels listing stereo vs. mono (good to know they're 98% accurate) and about whether or not an artist's series of singles that start getting released in stereo can go back to releases in mono for later singles. Interesting!
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