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boynamedfoo
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Can anyone confirm that the 3:48ish version that's readily available on cd (example Sound & Vision) is the true 45 version? The DB doesn't include it and I don't even remember it from back in the day?
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I remember really liking this song when it came out, but it kind of disappeared quickly. I did buy the 45, though (Chrysalis 2603). I also have the Sound & Vision cd, and, in a ROUGH comparison, they sound the same to me. They even fade out at the same time.
For what it's worth, this isn't one of Blondie's better songs, in my opinion. I guess my tastes have changed a little over the years after all.
Jon O.
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As far as I know, all 3:47-ish versions are the single edit. The one I have (off an import CD) is. Incidentally, I had the opposite reaction to jono. I remember kinda liking the song when it came out. But now I think it's one of Blondie's BEST songs ever. One of my 5 favorites. If you like their island-y stuff, like "Tide Is High", this is right up that alley. A very catchy melody. And Blondie did 2 nice videos for it.
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I'm pretty sure the 45 version has some remixing
involved, at least using the version on the "10 Best
Series" CD for comparison (my vinyl 45 vanished long
ago). At about 3:28 on the 45, there is a drum/high hat
hit with no vocal in the mix. If you were editing the LP
version to recreate the 45, there is a vocal at the
equivalent point. That is the most obvious difference,
but to me it sounds like the entire 45 version may be a
subtle remix to sound punchier...hard to tell if it's a
remix or just aggressive mastering on my CD (those cases
drive me nuts). In any event, I was not able to edit the
LP version to exactly match the 45 version.
I agree that it's a good song. I liked it so much that I
bought the 45 in 1982, when my teenage budget was very
skimpy. I was surprised when it flopped. Maybe it was
viewed as too reminiscent of "The Tide Is High"? In any
event, it's a nice relaxing-at-the-beach-with-a-tropical-
drink tune.
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I listened to my 45 at the 3:28-9 mark and Deborah Harry does sing what I believe is "Forget about what..." or something like that. It sounds the same as the version on the cd "Sound & Vision" to my ears.
Roscoe - is this the point on the 45 you were referring to? It seems the horns are mixed a little louder on the cd than the 45, but I really don't hear any other differences. I don't have the "10 Best Series" cd.
Jon O.
(thinking maybe this song isn't so bad after all...better than "Rapture" to me, but it's no "Sunday Girl" or "Dreaming" or "Heart Of Glass")
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jono wrote:
I listened to my 45 at the 3:28-9 mark and
Deborah Harry does sing what I believe is "Forget about
what..." or something like that. It sounds the same as
the version on the cd "Sound & Vision" to my ears.
Roscoe - is this the point on the 45 you were referring
to?
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The moment I was referring to was about 1 second before
she sings the "Forget about..." line. On my CD it's at
exactly the 3:28 mark, just before the horns kick in.
The downbeat where the horns kick in would actually be an
edit point if you were trying to recreate the 45 from the
LP, but the half second just before that point has some
vocals (sounds like "Aye-ya island") that aren't on the
45.
Confusing to explain but it sounds like there's a mix
difference immediately preceding an edit point.
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I posted a bit about the 10 Best Series disc on
the Steve Hoffman board:
All ten tracks are digitally identical clones from the
1994 2-CD Platinum Collection. Very harsh
mastering throughout on the Platinum Collection.
Very good source tapes, but compressed/limited
aggressively to about the -1 dB level on most tracks, and
a very harsh EQ. I'm not a fan.
The reason I bring this up at all is that the cheapie
Ten Best disc has the promo 45 version of
"Rapture", which is superb and is still kinda hard to
find, and the 45 versions of "The Tide Is High" and
"Atomic". They don't sound all that great, but they're
here to be had for cheap. It also chops off the popcorn-
sound intro to "Heart Of Glass", which is not cool.
The Ten Best disc has:
1. Call Me
2. One Way or Another
3. Hanging on the Telephone
4. Dreaming
5. Heart of Glass
6. Rapture
7. The Tide Is High
8. Island of Lost Souls
9. Denis
10. Atomic
FYI - I recommend a lot of the other, older Ten
Best discs, including Little River Band, Billy
Squier, Juice Newton and Culture Club.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 16 February 2012 at 5:50am
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crapfromthepast wrote:
the 45 versions of "The Tide Is High" and
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Which 45 version of "Atomic", there were 2...one ran ~3:17, the other ~3:45.
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Hykker wrote:
Which 45 version of "Atomic", there were
2...one ran ~3:17, the other ~3:45. |
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It's the 3:45 version; I didn't know there was a 3:17 45
version for "Atomic".
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Roscoe wrote:
[QUOTE=jono] I listened to my 45 at the 3:28-9 mark and
The moment I was referring to was about 1 second before
she sings the "Forget about..." line. On my CD it's at
exactly the 3:28 mark, just before the horns kick in.
The downbeat where the horns kick in would actually be an
edit point if you were trying to recreate the 45 from the
LP, but the half second just before that point has some
vocals (sounds like "Aye-ya island") that aren't on the
45.
Confusing to explain but it sounds like there's a mix
difference immediately preceding an edit point. |
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Maybe I have a different pressing, but my 45 has sounds like "aye-ya, aye-ya, aye-ya, aye-ya Island" from about 3:23-3:27, then no vocals until about 3:29 where she sings "Forget about what...". The Sound & Vision cd, has this exact same sequence, from what I'm hearing. Maybe this cd is different than the version that's on the "10 Best Series"?
Jon O.
Edited by jono on 16 February 2012 at 8:58am
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jono wrote:
Roscoe wrote:
[QUOTE=jono] I listened to
my 45 at the 3:28-9 mark and
The moment I was referring to was about 1 second before
she sings the "Forget about..." line. On my CD it's at
exactly the 3:28 mark, just before the horns kick in.
The downbeat where the horns kick in would actually be an
edit point if you were trying to recreate the 45 from the
LP, but the half second just before that point has some
vocals (sounds like "Aye-ya island") that aren't on the
45.
Confusing to explain but it sounds like there's a mix
difference immediately preceding an edit point. |
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Maybe I have a different pressing, but my 45 has sounds
like "aye-ya, aye-ya, aye-ya, aye-ya Island" from about
3:23-3:27, then no vocals until about 3:29 where she
sings "Forget about what...". The Sound & Vision cd, has
this exact same sequence, from what I'm hearing. Maybe
this cd is different than the version that's on the "10
Best Series"?
Jon O. |
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Bingo. Your description sounds exactly like the 10 Best
Series version. The difference between that and the LP
mix is that after the "aye-ya, island" vocals that end at
3:27 she picks up again one second later with another
"aye-ya island". That latter vocal is omitted on the 45
mix. So I think it's safe to say there's a mix
difference between the LP and the 45, and that the
Platinum Collection, 10 Best Series and Sound & Vision
contain the correct 45 version.
However, at least one CD contains a failed attempt to
recreate the 45 by editing the LP version: 1993's
"Blonde and Beyond" rarities collection. The edits are
in the right places, but that CD contains the brief "aye-
ya" vocal at 3:28 that was mixed out of the 45.
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Roscoe -
Great! I'm glad we could clear this version difference up. Yeah, neither my 45 nor my cd copy of "Sound & Vision" have that extra vocal at the 3:28 mark.
Any idea what cd(s) have the album version? I think this is from the album "The Hunter", so I would assume that cd (does it exist??) would have the LP version.
Jon O.
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jono wrote:
Roscoe -
Great! I'm glad we could clear this version difference
up. Yeah, neither my 45 nor my cd copy of "Sound &
Vision" have that extra vocal at the 3:28 mark.
Any idea what cd(s) have the album version? I think this
is from the album "The Hunter", so I would assume that cd
(does it exist??) would have the LP version.
Jon O. |
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The LP version runs 4:39 and can be found on The Hunter
CD as well as the 2006 Greatest Hits.
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Thanks, Roscoe!
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