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Posted: 06 April 2012 at 1:12pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

the song isn't listed in the db, but it is on an ace import
compilation titled "golden age of american rock n roll:
special novelty edition".....can anyone confirm that this
cd contains the 45 version?

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Posted: 20 April 2012 at 11:39am | IP Logged Quote Paul C

Yes, the Ace disc contains the hit version in good sound from a tape source. My 45 (Carlton 496) states the run time as (2:54), but I timed it at (2:50).

There is an interesting version of Ray Stevens' "Ahab The Arab" on the Ace CD. I was hoping it would be the single version and, although it has the same section edited out as the U.S. single version, some of the lyrics are different. I don't know if it is still the case, but it at least used to be that the BBC would not play any song which mentioned the brand name of a product. Every other version of this song that I have heard mentions numerous brand names, but on the Ace disc these lyrics have been replaced with lyrics that do not mention any brand names. My guess is that this is the UK single version. Can anyone confirm this?

Does anyone have both the Ace CD and an original 45 of The Ran-Dells' "Martian Hop"? The reason I ask is that on the Ace CD the sound-effects opening starts earlier than on a couple of other CDs and a Canadian re-issue 45 I have, but I don't know what's on the U.S. 45. Because of the longer intro, the song runs (2:13) on the Ace disc. All the other versions I have run (2:10).

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Posted: 20 April 2012 at 8:10pm | IP Logged Quote TomDiehl1

I don't have the ACE cd but it's possible they located a UK master tape for the Martian Hop. The late Steve Rappaport was a friend of mine whom I had first begun emailing when I was in my teens, sometime in the late 90's, and he once emailed me a detailed explanation of how The Martian Hop was recorded, he then went on to tell me that once the mono mix had been made, the session master was erased, and that since they never expected the song to be a hit, once the 45s were pressed up, even the mono master was erased, which would indicate that any foreign pressings would have been disc dubs of the American release....

I came across a beat up copy of the US 45 on Chairman while rummaging around in my storage locker last night but I did not bring it home with me (as I would have if I had seen this thread first -- I didn't even know I had a US pressing of the record until I came across it). I do know, however, that my Australian pressing of the 45 does have a longer intro than the 2:10 version I have on an mp3 from an old Halloween Hits cd that I no longer own. If the foreign pressings were in fact disc dubs that would indicate to me that the US version must have had the longer intro as well.

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Posted: 20 April 2012 at 10:50pm | IP Logged Quote Yah Shure

Here's one of those "what are the odds?" type of stories:

If any fellow contributors here on the board were also on the original Napster 11 or 12 years ago, you may recall the bug in Napster's instant messaging software, whereby if someone sent you a message using quotation marks (like around a song title) the message would cut off at that point. Hence, I found this message waiting one day:

Hi. Do you have

Great. Someone was obviously looking for a song title, but which one? I had probably a hundred or more of my own obscure vinyl rips in my shared folder.

Flash back to a winter day in early 1965, almost exactly thirty-six years earlier: I lived near the bottom of a dead-end street, the end of which overlooked a swamp which was dry for most of the year. An unfamiliar car came down the street and parked at the bottom, then a couple of older teenagers got out with a large box. Those of us younger teenagers who happened to be outside watched to see what these strangers were up to.

What they had was a box full of leftover DJ 45s from one of the local distributors. They proceeded to shuck the sleeves, then frisbeed each record out into the swamp as far as they could. We all watched in amazement at the vinyl blasphemy they were committing. :)

When they were done, they drove off. Free records don't fall from the sky every day, so you can imagine the feeding frenzy as we hunted down whatever records we could retrieve. A few were cracked, but because there was plenty of fluffy snow on the ground, most of the records were still in perfect shape. Among the no-name treasures I scooped up were eight copies of a 45 by a group who'd had a hit that was already in my collection.

Back to 2001 and the "Hi, do you have..." message on Napster: I checked the user name of the sender and realized that it was vaguely familiar. It took a few minutes, but I finally made the connection. The name of the sender was the same name I'd seen on those eight DJ 45s gleaned from the swamp thirty-six years earlier. It was Steve Rappaport.

Steve Rappaport? What song would he be looking for from me?? A quick scan of my shared folder turned up one side of that Operation Swamp Rescue Ran-Dells 45, "Wintertime," which was a cold-season spin on the Jamies' "Summertime, Summertime." Knowing that Steve could have downloaded that one, I figured he must've been looking for its flip side, "Beyond The Stars." I sent him a reply to that effect and here's what he sent back:

John,

Thanks very much for your response. I am indeed looking for "Beyond the Stars". It was the only Ran-Dells tune I sang lead on, and a pretty nice song also. I asked if you could email me an mp3 file of it. I sure appreciate it; hearing a clean version has been a mini-dream of mine for years.

Best wishes, and many thanks again.

Steven


I was saddened when I heard about Steve's passing several years ago, but it made me all the more thankful that he was able to realize his mini-dream all those years later.

And to those teenage record tossers - whoever they were - I tip my hat.
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Posted: 21 April 2012 at 10:52am | IP Logged Quote Paul C

Jimct has created in a new thread in which he kindly answered my question re "The Martian Hop".

One of the first lyrics sites to appear on the internet in the 1990s was one based in Brazil. I think it was called Lyrics World. (There currently exists a Lyrics World site but I don't think the two are related.) The lyrics to "The Martian Hop" were submitted to the site by Steve Rappaport himself. (The only other song I know of for which a band member submitted the lyrics was "You Could Take My Heart Away" by Silver Condor.)
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