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OK, another one for the class, since this didn't even make the Hot 100 in 1987-88. But anyone know if the US 45 version (which according to Discogs was a longer edit
than the UK 45 version) can be extracted from the LP version?
Thx!
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Doug, when it comes to what I call my "total stiffs section" (non-
chart/non-bubblers), luck was not on your side with "Unchain My Heart". I
did find two other 1987 Capitol NC 45s by Cocker (including 4 promo
copies of one of them; since re-filed), but that's no help to you. My British
chart book does show "Unchain..." as his first solo charter (#46, 4 wks on)
in his homeland since "The Letter" in 1970 - maybe they should've issued
the shorter UK 45 edit here? :)
Hopefully someone else here can bail you out, but if not, like you've noted
in your post, all U.S. 45s and the promo 12" state a runtime of (4:11), and
are luckily available on Discogs for just a buck or two + S&H. This might
just be one of those times when you'll have to go that route, assuming
you have a working TT. I'm afraid it might be your only option here. Good
luck, my friend!
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Doug - the promo 45 that I've got has a listed time of
4:11 on both sides, but plays 5:02 on both sides.
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I assume we're talking about the version that peaked at UK#17 in July 1992?
I have this song on 3 compilation CDs. EMI UK's 2-CD Now 22 (1992), Disky's European 8-CD Greatest Hits Of The '90s (2004), and the US jukebox-only promo collection Spotlight On Hits Pop Vol. 23 (1994) all include the same 5:02 version.
I'll check the hard drive tonight to see if I have a 4:11 version from someone else's collection.
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I assumed Doug was discussing the 1987 45, Capitol 44072,
which does have a listed time of 4:11, as said. There was
a "90s version" as well from a 1992 greatest hits cd.
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Chuck is correct. I was discussing the 1987 45.
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jimct wrote:
| This might just be one of those times when you'll have to go that route, assuming you have a working TT. I'm afraid it might be your only option here. Good luck, my friend! |
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Alas, I do not. That's what I have you guys for. :)
ETA: Hey, post 1100! And they said it wouldn't last!
Edited by sriv94 on 23 June 2015 at 8:32am
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Doug, you're in luck! Even though I don't have the song
in my active music library, I DO have a 1987 U.S.
Capitol Promo 45 (44072).
Listed time is 4:11, actual is 5:02.
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So can we infer from this that the 45 and the LP are in fact the same and there was never a (4:11) edit issued?
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That would be my guess.
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My stereo equipment is not as sophisticated as the other
folks' on this forum so I generally don't post, but as my
commercial copy of this record is indeed an edit of the LP
version I wanted to reply. As I hear it, there seems to be
two edits to make my old 1987 Capitol 45 time out for me at
4:09 (my turntable may be fast since the record states 4:11)
while the version I have on The Long Voyage Home boxset
times out for me at 5:18 - otherwise the song is identical.
There seems to be a verse excised from about 3:15 - 3:32 and
then the long ending vamp is sliced about 3:58 - 4:50 when
the single and CD both say "Oh..." then slow down to finish.
Hopefully someone with better gear can confirm my timing.
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Those timings can't be right. The first one makes for a very awkward edit, and the "Oh..."'s don't match in the second edit.
Anyone else possibly have this?
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Sorry, I don't have the 45 of this one. Hey Doug, you hit post #1283! And they said it wouldn't last...
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I defer to my 2015 post. Unless there was another pressing
in 1987, I don't know.
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aaronk wrote:
Sorry, I don't have the 45 of this one. Hey Doug, you
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If this were Facebook you’d get a like. :)
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Kudos to Gary, who sent a copy. There's actually a third edit (the piano before the bass line is snipped).
Rockdent was correct about where the second edit (the 3:15-3:32 one) was, but I'm not sure it can be extracted cleanly from the
LP (if feels like there's either an extra piano note or overdub that obscures Cocker's singing of "un" at (3:15)).
Having trouble pinpointing the third edit--I know it's there but I'm not sophisticated enough either.
So, indeed it's an edit, but in my view not an easy edit to make. But YMMV.
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Interesting. Maybe this is a UK edit?
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