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Santi Paradoa MusicFan
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The Mamas And The Papas: The Complete Singles - The 50th Anniversary Collection (2-CD Set)
With the debut of their first hit, California Dreamin’, on the charts, The Mamas and the Papas proclaimed themselves to be a potent new force in the burgeoning West Coast folk-rock movement, announcing to the world that something special and beautiful was happening in California.
Now, 50 years to the day after California Dreamin’ entered the Billboard Hot 100 on January 8, 1966, Real Gone Music is celebrating this very special anniversary by releasing The Mamas and the Papas: The Complete Singles The 50th Anniversary Collection, a two-CD, 53-track set that includes for the first time ever the A and B side of every single the group released, all in their impossible-to-find-on-CD original mono single mixes.
But this one-of-a-kind collection, which is remastered by Aaron Kannowski, the engineer responsible for Real Gone’s acclaimed collections of singles by fellow Dunhill label acts The Grass Roots and Steppenwolf doesn’t stop with The Mamas and the Papas singles; it also includes the solo single sides that group members Mama Cass Elliot, Denny Doherty and John Phillips cut for the Dunhill and ABC labels, again in their rare, original single mixes.
Co-Producer Ed Osborne’s notes feature quotes drawn from extended interviews with Mama Michelle Phillips and Dunhill label head and producer Lou Adler, while the package also includes a number of rarely-seen images of this eminently photographable band. Many of the solo singles and B-sides have never been on CD, let alone in their single mixes; plus, over the course of listening to this set (which clocks in at over 150 minutes) you’re going to hear such legendary songs as Monday, Monday, California Dreamin’, Creeque Alley, I Saw Her Again, Words of Love, Dream A Little Dream Of Me, Glad To Be Unhappy, Dedicated To The One I Love, and It’s Getting Better exactly as folks heard them over the radio back in those halcyon days.
Due to the unfortunate situation with the Dunhill single master tape reels (supposedly thrown out at the behest of one of the label’s owners), Mamas and Papas fans had despaired of ever hearing the group’s original singles on CD. Now, after countless hours spent tracking down sources, Real Gone Music is proud to release the most significant addition to The Mamas and the Papas discography in years!
Amazon US is already taking pre-orders. Street/Release Date is January 8th, 2016 (Real Gone Music).
Disc: 1
1. Go Where You Wanna Go
2. Somebody Groovy
3. California Dreamin'
4. Monday, Monday
5. Got A Feelin’
6. I Saw Her Again
7. Even If I Could
8. Look Through My Window
9. Once Was a Time I Thought
10. Words Of Love
11. Dancing In The Street
12. Dedicated To The One I Love
13. Free Advice
14. Creeque Alley
15. Did You Ever Want To Cry
16. Twelve Thirty (Young Girls Are Coming)
17. Straight Shooter
18. Glad To Be Unhappy
19. Hey Girl
20. Dancing Bear
21. John’s Music Box
22. Safe In My Garden
23. Too Late
24. Dream A Little Dream Of Me
25. Midnight Voyage
26. For The Love Of Ivy
27. Strange Young Girls
Disc: 2
1. Do You Wanna Dance
2. My Girl
3. Step Out
4. Shooting Star
5. California Earthquake (Mama Cass)
6. Talkin’ To Your Toothbrush (Mama Cass)
7. Move In A Little Closer, Baby (Mama Cass)
8. All For Me (Mama Cass)
9. It’s Getting Better (Mama Cass)
10. Who’s To Blame (Mama Cass)
11. Make Your Own Kind Of Music (Mama Cass Elliot)
12. Lady Love (Mama Cass Elliot)
13. New World Coming (Mama Cass Elliot)
14. Blow Me A Kiss (Mama Cass Elliott)
15. A Song That Never Comes (Mama Cass Elliot)
16. I Can Dream, Can’t I (Mama Cass Elliot)
17. The Good Times Are Coming (Mama Cass Elliot)
18. Welcome To The World (Mama Cass)
19. Don’t Let The Good Life Pass You By (Mama Cass Elliot)
20. The Costume Ball (Mama Cass Elliot)
21. Watcha Gonna Do (Denny Doherty)
22. Gathering The Words (Denny Doherty)
23. To Claudia On Thursday (Denny Doherty)
24. Tuesday Morning (Denny Doherty)
25. Mississippi (John Phillips)
26. April Anne (John Phillips)
Edited by Santi Paradoa on 28 October 2015 at 1:07pm
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Underground Dub MusicFan
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So excited about this one!
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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Underground Dub wrote:
So excited about this one! |
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Me, too! With Ed and Aaron doing their usual stellar work, this should look and sound fantastic!
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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The only two new CDs I've bought in the last 5 years are Real Gone's Grass Roots and Steppenwolf sets. This will be my third. Congrats to Ed and Aaron for getting this one to market!
__________________ There's a lot of crap on the radio, but there's only one Crap From The Past.
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Hykker MusicFan
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So were they able to find tape sources for these songs, or
did they have to resort to needledrops?
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Aaron will never tell!
A lot of us listened to the Grass Roots and Steppenwolf sets with the same scrutiny that we give to other discs. (Does the high end disappear on the fade? Do we hear turntable rumble or surface cracklies? Etc.) If any tracks were taken from vinyl, we couldn't tell. Aaron either found tapes, or did the best transfers from vinyl that I've ever heard.
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Yah Shure MusicFan
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Cleary, you haven't found his price point yet. ;)
crapfromthepast wrote:
...or did the best transfers from vinyl that I've ever heard. |
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Judging from the vinyl dubs Aaron and I have exchanged in the past, Dunhill could have cut the Mamas & Papas sessions to Edison wax cylinders and Aaron could make them sound great. Probably better than the original 45s, since Thomas Edison's choice of wax quality was a lot better than Dunhill's was for vinyl or styrene.
crapfromthepast wrote:
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Surface Cracklies!! Best breakfast cereal name ever! Ron, hie thee to General Mills HQ and submit that name, pronto! :)
With the M&Ps now officially on the release schedule, The Thomas Group Complete Dunhill Singles, C-Sides, D-Sides, Outtakes, Splicing Tape Scraps And Floor Sweepings set just has to be in the pre-production pipeline by now.
If not, I'd settle for the Pratt-McClain Complete Dunhill Singles set. ;)
Seriously, Aaron's work is second to none. As for the endless Dunhill tape-vs.-needledrop guessing games (a virtual cottage industry spectator sport on the Hoffman forum for both the Grass Roots and Steppenwolf collections) as long as the end result sounds great, I couldn't care less what it was sourced from, especially when it comes to mono 45 mixes. If Aaron's name is on it, that's good enough for me.
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Brian W. MusicFan
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My goodness, that Aaron has been busy lately! Sounds like
an exciting release.
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The Hits Man MusicFan
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Yah Shure wrote:
Judging from the vinyl dubs Aaron and I have exchanged in
the past, Dunhill could have cut the Mamas & Papas
sessions to Edison wax cylinders and Aaron could make
them sound great. Probably better than the
original 45s, since Thomas Edison's choice of wax quality
was a lot better than Dunhill's was for vinyl or styrene.
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I have done a few ABC/Dunhill needledrops that sound like
they could have come from tape. It's not that hard.
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jimct MusicFan
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*Quote from Grant (aka Hits Man)*
I have done a few ABC/Dunhill needledrops that sound like
they could have come from tape. It's not that hard.
*end of quote*
Grant, I am genuinely happy that you continue to be so ultra-impressed,
year after year, with the quality of your own audio results. But why on
earth do you feel the need to "re-post/re-congratulate" yourself every
time the release of a new CD mastered by either Aaron or Mark is
announced?
Mark Mathews and Aaron Kannowski both have multiple CD mastering
credits. On legitimate CDs. Their work has been praised by most
everyone. They've been paid for their efforts. And they are both respected
by their fellow industry professionals, as doing incredibly good work.
Yet for years you've posted, both here and elsewhere, as if you are a "peer
audio pro" of theirs. As if you, too, have mastered CDs I own. You doing
this frequently has always baffled the heck out of me. Why? This could be
my bad, so allow me to give you the benefit of the doubt. Have I missed
the CDs that you have personally mastered and submitted to the reissue
labels? If so, please let me know, so I can go buy it, and fairly evaluate
your published mastering efforts.
Almost all of us on the forum have dubbed some of our favorite vinyl 45s,
for our own use. And a good number of us old radio guys, myself
included, have used high-quality tapes to dub for airplay. That said, while
I'm happy with my own results, I don't consider anything I've ever done to
be in the same universe as either Mark and/or Aaron's amazing work.
Even though I was trained on and had use of top-of-the-line, professional
production facilities for 30 years. They possess a special gift that I do not.
Grant, all I'm saying is that I don't know of any actual pro audio CD
mastering work on your resume. And without such experience, I don't feel
any of your personal audio evaluations have any more (or less)
authority/weight behind them than the opinions of 99% of us here on the
board do. (Mark & Aaron are obviously excluded.) We all buy lots of CDs,
and we all want them to sound as good as possible. Pat has always
provided a notation if a CD has a glitch, "no fidelity", or the like. However,
I have never posted on T4MOC about how good or bad I think my own
vinyl dubs are. No matter the song or group. Why? Because 1) no one else
cares, and 2) it honestly adds nothing to the forum discussion, does it?
Edited by jimct on 28 October 2015 at 5:19pm
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bitman MusicFan
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OMG - Merry (early) Christmas to me!
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TomDiehl1 MusicFan
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I'm gonna pick this one up just for a clean single
version of Dedicated To The One I Love. I grew up
playing my 45 over and over. From my teen years to even
now, I have had people tell me there was little to no
difference between the single and stereo mixes, but I
have always noticed a difference, I don't know what it
is, but I cannot wait to hear a pristine copy on CD.
Even if it's a disc dub, I'll be content, as long as it
sounds good...and I know this CD set will.
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aaronk Admin Group
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I thought this info might be interesting to some of us here :)
# of mono single mixes that match the mono LP mixes: 16
# of mono single mixes that are unique to the 45s: 28
# of mono sides that sound like fold-downs: 4
# of stereo mixes: 5
Total # of singles: 53
Mono single mixes that match the mono LP mixes (NONE are fold-downs of
the stereo LP mixes):
Go Where You Wanna Go
Somebody Groovy
California Dreamin’
Got A Feelin’
I Saw Her Again
Even If I Could
Look Through My Window
Once Was A Time I Thought
Dancing In The Street
Dedicated To The One I Love
Did You Ever Want To Cry
Straight Shooter
Hey Girl
John’s Music Box (never released in stereo)
Strange Young Girls
Do You Wanna Dance
Mono single mixes that are unique to the 45s:
Monday, Monday
Words Of Love
Free Advice (will be the version unique to the 45)
Creeque Alley
Twelve Thirty (Young Girls Are Coming To The Canyon)
Glad To Be Unhappy
Dancing Bear
Safe In My Garden
Too Late
Midnight Voyage
For The Love Of Ivy
My Girl
California Earthquake
Talkin’ To Your Toothbrush
Move In A Little Closer, Baby
All For Me (never released in stereo)
It’s Getting Better
Who’s To Blame
Make Your Own Kind Of Music
Lady Love
New World Coming
Blow Me A Kiss
A Song That Never Comes
I Can Dream, Can’t I
Don’t Let The Good Life Pass You By
Mississippi
Watcha Gonna Do
Gathering The Words
These four songs sound like fold-downs to my ears: Dream A Little Dream Of
Me, Step Out, Shooting Star, and April Anne.
__________________ Aaron Kannowski
Uptown Sound
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I'm looking forward to the CD coming out this Friday! For those curious about the top 40 hits contained on the 2-CD set:
(M) (2:39) California Dreamin'
(M) (3:10) Monday Monday (mono 45 length)
(M) (2:52) I Saw Her Again (45 and mono LP version)
(M) (3:07) Look Through My Window (45 mix)
(M) (2:13) Words Of Love (45 version)
(M) (2:57) Dedicated To The One I Love
(M) (3:48) Creeque Alley (45 version)
(M) (3:20) Twelve Thirty
(M) (1:40) Glad To Be Unhappy (45 version)
(M) (3:13) Dream A Little Dream Of Me
(M) (2:53) It's Getting Better (45 length)
(M) (2:24) Make Your Own Kind Of Music
(M) (2:10) New World Coming
(M) (3:09) Mississippi (45 version)
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Bill Cahill MusicFan
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Sounds fantastic Aaron, exactly as advertised!
Now, can you go back and fix their B. J. Thomas collection?
: )
Bill
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aaronk Admin Group
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Bill Cahill wrote:
Sounds fantastic Aaron, exactly as advertised!
Now, can you go back and fix their B. J. Thomas collection?
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LOL! Thanks, Bill. I'm really happy to see the positive reviews coming in.
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Aaron, without even having listened to this set yet, I can say that your work is
always top notch. We are privileged to have you among us, and to bring these
rarities to light. I am looking forward to hearing the CD soon...
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I don't have the expert ears of the many here, but I listened and found it to be well worth the 40+ year wait! The collection sounds amazing...I hope I detect a not-so-subtle Dunhill pattern here and Three Dog Night will be next!
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I received my CD, and a follow-up e-mail from RealGone. the
follow up was to let me know that since I did not receive an
autographed copy, I got a coupon code for $5 off my next
purchase. That seemed nice. Then, I got to thinking... They
knew I did not get an autographed copy. So, it follows that
they know who did. Sounds like it was not random. Do they pick
and choose who gets one? I e-mailed them to ask that very
question. I will follow up with their response.
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aaronk Admin Group
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I would guess that everyone's name went into a hat (or some similar
method). Even if the names were known by Real Gone, that doesn't
mean it wasn't random. When I worked in radio, we had drawings like
this all the time. Entrants' names were entered into a spreadsheet and
numbered. Then a random number generator picked the winning
number.
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