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After 37 years, the "phantom record" has been found!
Thanks to Ron for having me on his show this past Friday night (7/8/16) to listen to and talk about some "lost" gems from 1979, including the most "lost" of them all!
Here's the link:
https://archive.org/details/cftp-2016-07-08
Edited by Paul Haney on 11 July 2016 at 11:46am
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We've all gotten used to just about every song being available (or at least mentioned) somewhere on the internet.
And, still, "Ready 'N' Steady" by D.A. was nowhere to be found, 37 years after it peaked at #102 in 1979.
Paul and the research team at Record Research have unearthed the full story behind the rarest title ever to appear on a Billboard chart.
Take a bow, Paul! You've earned this one!
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Fun listening to the segment! Ron, it's great that you have the show archive and keep it updated. Thanks for that!
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I listen to Ron's program every weekend and I always enjoy the obscure tunes and rare versions. BTW, that is quite a find. Barry Scott swears he has every lost 45 but I bet he doesn't have that gem in his collection.
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Ron, thanks again for having me. It's always a fun time to sit in on my favorite radio show. Between the D.A. world premiere and the Shamus M'Cool song we played last September, I think we've got the truly obscure stuff covered!
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This is a very enjoyable episode of Crap From The Past.
Thanks Paul for your story on this one!
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Just listened to the entire 90-minute show. As a (now) 35-year chart guru myself, it was certainly fascinating to hear this newly-discovered info on "Ready 'n' Steady" and actually get to listen to the song as well! After 37 years, who'da thunk D.A. was really "Detroit Ace" Bob Seger under an alias?!? (Okay, so I just made up that nickname on the fly, lol.) :-) Great work, Paul, and fun show, cftp - some good picks among the other songs, too (my favorite probably being "Too Late")...
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I listened to the show and was fascinated by the story
- but it raises several questions.
How exactly did the Bubbling Under charts work?
If the song was never pressed on vinyl, how did the
promoter get stations to play it - or was it just a
"paper add" at a handful of stations, enough to get it
on?
I know there were a lot of regional hits that bubbled
under over the years, but they'd usually have
popularity in a specific part of the country and be
well known in that area.
I agree with what the others have said - the song's
not bad!
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The Wikipedia page was updated minutes after the post in this forum! There is a youtube video for song.
Why don't we all just watch this video over and over again. That way it will generate enough streams so the song can make the Billboard charts again! Song is much better than most of the current songs that make the charts based on streams - I'm talking to you Kanye.
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To "80smusicfreak":
Yeah, it does sound like Bob Seger in a fun mood!
To everyone:
Wasn't there also an elusive CashBox (or Record World) charter? I can't think of its name. (Not thinking of "The Letter" by Wayne Newton.)
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The Cash Box song was "Mother Tone" by Truce (Voodoo Music 127077) which was listed for two weeks in 1992.
Billboard listed the song “Tunnel Power” by Triumph on two Mainstream Rock charts in 1983.
No evidence either song existed - RR doesn't include either in their books.
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
To "80smusicfreak":
Yeah, it does sound like Bob Seger in a fun mood! |
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I SWEAR it's sandwiched in between "Hollywood Nights" and "Old Time Rock & Roll" on my Greatest Hits CD, lol... :-)
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Wasn't there also an elusive CashBox (or Record World) charter? I can't think of its name. (Not thinking of "The Letter" by Wayne Newton.)
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Yes. You're thinking of 1992's "Mother Tone" by Truce. (Or is it "Truce" by Mother Tone??? Not sure.) Paul Haney posted about it here in a thread he titled "Mystery song" back in December of 2013. (Oops - looks like Chartman just beat me to it!) Funny, I was actually thinking the same thing just after making my previous post yesterday...
I, for one, never gave up on the possible existence of either of these songs, as over the years I've found all kinds of stuff that ISN'T shown in any highly-regarded price guides, chart books, memorabilia guides written by hard-core fans, or have any apparent documentation on-line when using Google or other search engines. In fact, I once tried making that argument here on Pat's board re: the possible existence of a promo 45 for Stevie Wonder's "Isn't She Lovely", but was slammed for it! My point: In my 30+ years of collecting music now, we really don't know as much as we think when it comes to what's really out there, people, and this unearthing of D.A.'s "Ready 'n' Steady" proves it. (Oh, and aren't we currently awaiting a report from jimct on the possible discovery of a 4:40 edit of Don Henley's "Dirty Laundry" after 33 years???) Yes, I agree it's now time to tackle this "mystery" Cash Box song as well! (*steps off soapbox*)
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Was great to finally hear the mysterious "Ready N
Steady"...
Not to sidetrack into the also rare Shamus M'Cool
territory but the mentioning of him upthread made me just
notice something interesting concerning "American
Memories" brief journey up the chart in 1981. The common
story is that this song got onto the chart due to Shamus
getting Los Angeles DJ's to playlist it and those
stations market share being big enough to force it to
chart. However, upon
reviewing the Singles Radio Action sections in Billboard
I found this didn't get added at the L.A. stations that
were posted in the magazine at least. Instead it shows as
getting playlisted in markets as diverse as Portland,
Dallas, Detroit, Cleveland, & St. Paul. It never shows up
as moving up those stations charts - just the paper adds.
It also surprisingly is listed as an overall Breakout in
the Pacific Northwest region on 7-11 (the week it got the
Dallas add) and the Midwest on 7-18 (the week it got the
St. Paul report). Since Perspective was essentially
Shamus pedaling his own record this gives me hope that he
at least had to have pressed up more than ten copies to
get this record into different areas of the country to
wind up on their playlists. That or he somehow paid the
right promotions guy to get it going just enough to chart
even if there were no actual record in those markets to
buy. It also should be noted that M'Cool tried to keep
the record going the week after it fell off the Hot 100
by buying a full page ad in the magazine hyping the song.
He also bought his own smaller self congratulatory ad at
the end of the year noting the success of the song as
well as the flip side in the 12-12-81 issue as well.
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It took us 37 years to get to the bottom of the D.A. situation and the "Mother Tone" mystery is "only" 24 years old, so we've still got 13 years to figure that one out! Maybe that should be my next "investigative" project.
As for "Ready 'N' Steady", let's just say that the promo guy is the one that initiated getting the song on the chart. I don't feel comfortable sharing ALL the details, let's just all be happy that the song has been found. I truly think it's better than a lot of charted stuff from 1979.
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Great news! Just listened, it's catchy!
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I never thought I'd ever hear this, so cool to hear it
and that it's a real thing. Anyone else thinking of
David Lee Roth while listening?
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This made my week... Thanks for all of the research and for sharing it with us, guys!
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I just listened and think this is amazing. It sounded really good. What
a find.
Out of curiosity, was the ending of the song on the tape as abrupt as it
sounded on the show? Wasn't sure if that's just the way it was or if Ron
accidentally hit a button or something.
I've also never heard about the Mother Tone/Truce issue since I never
paid much attention to Cash Box. This is interesting to me since it
really wasn't that long ago and you'd think that people who know about
this or could answer questions are still alive. There was an early 90s
all male R&B/gospel group called Truce. I assume they've been asked
about it and ruled out?
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Thanks Chartman & everybody else that answered!
I am now interested in the story behind "Tunnel Power" charting on Top Rock Tracks! If anybody has any info/reasons I will be interested. (I'm assuming, if ever found, the lyrics AREN'T "I'm young, I'm wild, I'm free. Got the tunnel power of the music in me")
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JL328 wrote:
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Jim Franks (co-writer of the song with Dennis Armand "D. A." Lucchesi) sent Paul a CD-R transferred from a cassette, and it sounds like Jim inadvertently truncated a bit of the fade during the transfer. I let the CD-R end fully before we started talking.
Jim's cassette is likely the only source of the song, anywhere, and I'd bet that the cassette includes the full fadeout.
I think that cassette may include other D.A. tracks recorded at the time, in addition to "Ready 'N' Steady".
Edited by crapfromthepast on 14 July 2016 at 9:25am
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