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Posted: 27 April 2006 at 3:56pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

the 2 top 40 songs of jesus jones are listed below

1-right here, right now (righteous radio mix) (3:03)
2-real, real, real (original album version)   (3:06)

this data should be reflected in the db

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Posted: 06 June 2010 at 10:21am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

My TM library has "The Real Pop Mix" version of "Real, Real, Real." Is this just a fancy name for the album version, or was there a unique mix issued to pop radio?
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Posted: 08 June 2010 at 1:10pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

It appears there were two promo CD singles of "Right Here, Right Now." DPRO-05387 has the same tracks as the commercial CD single (Hit Radio Mix, Righteous Radio Mix, 12" Mix). My guess is that this was the one serviced to CHR, while the one reported in the Single/Album Versions thread (DPRO-05376) was issued to rock radio. The latter does not contain the shorter "Hit Radio Mix" without the guitar solo.
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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 12:14am | IP Logged Quote jimct

Aaron, your "Right Here, Right Now" servicing theory appears to be correct, as we only received in the DPRO-05387 promo you cite above. Here is my promo CD single info for "Real, Real, Real".

-Jesus Jones-"Real, Real, Real" (DPRO-05402)
1-The Real Pop Mix (listed & actual 3:06)
2-The Real Hot Crossover Mix (listed 4:19; actual 4:18)
3-The Real Dance Hall Mix (listed & actual 6:16)
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Aaron, as soon as I can (unless someone else beats me to it), I will rummage through my full CDs, and see if I happen to have a JJ copy filed away. If so, I'll shoot you out the "Real, Real, Real" LP version found on there for your analysis.
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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 6:51am | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

I have this track on seven compilations, none of which are eligible for the database. (!)

All appear to be the LP version running around 3:06, and all run at 110.2 BPM. I never noticed any mix differences at the time, when my ear was well-tuned to the song.

FYI - It's on:
  • UK's Now That's What I Call Music 17 (1990)
  • Hot Hits Pop Vol. 8 (1991)
  • Spotlight On Hits Vol. 2 (1991)
  • Top Hits USA RH10 (1992)
  • Canada's Awesome Hits (1992; PolyTel)
  • Big '90s (1996; Razor & Tie)
  • UK's 8-CD Greatest Hits Of The '90s (2004; Disky)
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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 7:42am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Ron, if you'd like to check, I can send you the "Real Pop Mix" to compare with the LP version. That will save Jim from having to dig through his deeply buried full-length albums.
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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 6:09pm | IP Logged Quote crapfromthepast

Thanks to Aaron, I got to listen to the "Real Pop Mix" from the promo CD single, and I can confirm that it matches all the versions I posted above.

My copy of Top Hits RH10 has the notation of "(Pop Mix)" after the title, for what it's worth.

Big '90s is a differently-EQ'd digital clone of the file Aaron sent, and it's probably the best-sounding of the bunch. The main differences among them were EQ; there's a little compression on the Disky CD and on Spotlight, and there's some odd clipping on the bottom half of the waveform on Top Hits RH10.

What I can't confirm is that all these are the true album version. The Canadian PolyTel CDs have a history of using the LP versions, so I'm around 70% sure it's the true LP version. That's about as far as I can take it without the JJ CD...

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Posted: 09 June 2010 at 6:33pm | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

To the best of my memory, the "Hit Radio Mix" is an edit of the "Righteous Radio Mix". The LP version is a somewhat different mix of the "Righteous Radio Mix".

What I'm confused about: Is the "Real Pop Mix" the same as the LP version or the "Righteous Radio Mix"??
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
To the best of my memory, the "Hit Radio Mix" is an edit of the "Righteous Radio Mix". The LP version is a somewhat different mix of the "Righteous Radio Mix".

What I'm confused about: Is the "Real Pop Mix" the same as the LP version or the "Righteous Radio Mix"??

Sorry, Andy. There are two different songs being discussed, and the "Real Pop Mix" is for "Real, Real, Real." You are correct about the different versions of "Right Here, Right Now."
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Ron, thanks for your info. It's probably pretty safe to conclude that the "Real Pop Mix" is the same as the LP version for "Real, Real, Real."
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Posted: 10 June 2010 at 6:22am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi

To Aaron,

Thanks for the clarification!!

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Seven years later...

I can confirm that "Real Real Real [The Real Pop Mix]" from track 1 of the promo CD single SBK DPRO-05402 is digitally identical to the LP version on Doubt and Razor & Tie's Big '90s.

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edtop40 wrote:
the 2 top 40 songs of jesus jones are listed below

1-right here, right now (righteous radio mix) (3:03)
2-real, real, real (original album version)   (3:06)

this data should be reflected in the db

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In reference to "Right Here, Right Now " Not sure why the 2:33 that is titled hit radio mix, which was also the TM Century version is not the correct "hit version" mix? Usually if TM issued it, isn't that the hit version?

https://www.discogs.com/Jesus-Jones-Right-Here-Right-Now/rel ease/1994598

The only thing I noticed in this thread is that any doubts about the hit version of Real, Real, Real were answered. Ah these numerous 90's versions. I miss the 80's when CD promos were simpler....

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Since this thread started years ago, I can report some additional details:

DPRO-05376
1. Righteous Radio Mix (listed 3:03)
2. Album Version (listed 3:06)
3. (a different song called "Move Me")
(I can time these if needed, but I believe the actual times are within a second of the printed times.)

DPRO-05387 (promo) & K2-19734 (retail)
1. Hit Radio Mix (listed 2:30; actual 2:31)
2. Righteous Radio Mix (listed 3:03; actual 3:02)
3. Martyn Phillips 12" Mix (listed 5:48; actual 5:46)

I wasn't working in radio at the time, so I don't know the full release history. It would make sense, though, that perhaps the first promo CD was sent to rock/alternative radio (where it became a #1 song), while the second promo was sent to top 40.

The cassette single has the "Righteous Radio Mix" as the first track, followed by the album version. Since the cassette single was the biggest selling format at retail in 1991, that would make the "Righteous Radio Mix" the official single version. Perhaps, though, the "Hit Radio Mix" is the actual hit version receiving most of the airplay. It's also possible that the "Righteous Radio Mix" received a significant amount of top 40 airplay in 1991, but I can say that my local station played the shorter "Hit Radio Mix."

Here's how to identify the three common mixes:
- Album Version starts with drums for a few seconds. The drums then stop, and the lead guitar starts with a percussive shaker on top.
- Righteous Radio Mix starts with the lead guitar by itself (no shaker). It contains a guitar solo mid-song.
- Hit Radio Mix also starts with the lead guitar by itself, but it removes the guitar solo mid-song.

Edited by aaronk on 18 September 2020 at 9:25am


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