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Tim Lyman
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Posted: 19 May 2006 at 10:06pm | IP Logged Quote Tim Lyman
The label and jacket of my Sammy Johns vinyl LP (GRC GA-5003) list the running time of "Chevy Van" as 3:52. The actual running time is 2:58.

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Posted: 19 May 2006 at 10:53pm | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi
Is it identical to the 45 version?
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Posted: 20 May 2006 at 6:00am | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey
Wow Tim my dj copy runs (3:51) with a stated time of (3:52)!
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Posted: 20 May 2006 at 7:06am | IP Logged Quote Tim Lyman
AndrewChouffi wrote:
Is it identical to the 45 version?


Yes, it's the same version.

Pat, my LP is a "stock" (commercial) copy.
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Posted: 20 May 2006 at 9:41am | IP Logged Quote AndrewChouffi
Pat,

What's the difference in the longer version? I've never heard it.

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Posted: 20 May 2006 at 2:11pm | IP Logged Quote Grant
There shouldn't be any difference in a lousy one second!
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Posted: 20 May 2006 at 3:05pm | IP Logged Quote TomDiehl1
But Grant, the difference here is almost a minute...not one second....

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Posted: 20 May 2006 at 6:03pm | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey
Someone asked about the LP vs 45 version back in January and I never got back to them so here is what I have found. The LP and 45 seem to be identical up to the point where the 45 fades and from that point on, the LP goes into a long instrumental jam. So in keeping with the desires of most members participating in the chat board discussions, I will change the comment to 45 length for all cd's currently in the database since you can fade the LP length to get the 45 length.   
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Posted: 20 May 2006 at 7:22pm | IP Logged Quote Gary Mack
I have the GRC stereo/mono promo 45 and both sides list and run 2:54. The label also says, Mixed for air play and Remix engineer Milan Bogdan.

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Posted: 20 May 2006 at 9:23pm | IP Logged Quote budaniel
Are there two different pressings of the commercial LP? Tim says the LP time listing is wrong, that the actual time is 2:58. Pat's saying there's a dj copy (of the LP, I assume?) that runs the length stated on Tim's LP. Does that mean the long version was not released on a commercial LP?
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Posted: 21 May 2006 at 1:13am | IP Logged Quote jimct
Tim Lyman wrote:
The label and jacket of my Sammy Johns vinyl LP (GRC GA-5003) list the running time of "Chevy Van" as 3:52. The actual running time is 2:58.

The jacket of my commercial Sammy Johns GRC GA-5003 vinyl LP also lists the "Chevy Van" run time as 3:52, but on my label it SAYS (and actually runs) (2:58).
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Posted: 21 May 2006 at 7:18am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite
So from all the comments above, is it correct to say that the long version is only available on the dj LPs?
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Posted: 21 May 2006 at 4:00pm | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey
After hearing the comment that the 45 is a remix, I did listen carefully to the 45 and my LP version which runs (3:51) and there does seem to be a mix difference with the guitars brought up much louder on the LP that I have when compared to the 45. Now perhaps later pressings of the LP substituted the 45 mix and the shorter version - that I do not know. Even on the different cd's on which this song appears, there appear to be several different mixes making any comments difficult. In any case I have yet to find any cd with the exact 45 mix which really brings the guitars down low. Can anyone that has the short version (2:58) on the "Sammy Johns" LP fill us in on the mix on that short version being equal to the mix on the 45? Like I said, the mixes are different from the long version (3:51) and the 45 remix.
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Posted: 21 May 2006 at 6:07pm | IP Logged Quote Tim Lyman
Pat Downey wrote:
   Can anyone that has the short version (2:58) on the "Sammy Johns" LP fill us in on the mix on that short version being equal to the mix on the 45? Like I said, the mixes are different from the long version (3:51) and the 45 remix.


Pat,

I don't have a copy of the actual 45, but I can send you a CD-R of my 2:58 LP version, if it would help.
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Posted: 21 May 2006 at 8:46pm | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey
Let's see if anyone else can come to the rescue before you send me the CD-R Tim.
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Posted: 21 May 2006 at 11:06pm | IP Logged Quote jimct
Pat Downey wrote:
Now perhaps later pressings of the LP substituted the 45 mix and the shorter version - that I do not know. Can anyone that has the short version (2:58) on the "Sammy Johns" LP fill us in on the mix on that short version being equal to the mix on the 45?
Pat, I can confirm that the guitar levels, and all else for that matter, are exactly the same on my stock 45 as they are on my (2:58) stock LP version.
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Posted: 22 May 2006 at 12:19am | IP Logged Quote Grant
TomDiehl1 wrote:
But Grant, the difference here is almost a minute...not one second....
I was referring to the DJ copy that someone earlier mentioned...
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Posted: 22 May 2006 at 12:22am | IP Logged Quote Grant
I know where I can find a commercial 45 of it...
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Posted: 25 May 2006 at 8:00pm | IP Logged Quote Grant
OK, I got the commercial and radio promo 45s. They have a stated time of 2:54 on both, mono and stereo, and both sides say that they are mixed for air play.

The mix itself has the guitars lover in most places, and the vocals up loud.   The Keyboards are also louder. This is the way I heard it on the radio in 1975.

A made a nice needle drop of the stereo single.
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Posted: 26 May 2006 at 9:52am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite
1) Can anyone say which CD has (or comes closest to having) the single remix?

2) Gary Mack comments that the promo 45 states "Mixed for air play and Remix engineer Milan Bogdan". Is the commercial 45 also this remix or just a fade of the LP?

3) For those mixes on CDs that are not really the 45 mix or LP mix, would they be considered (and listed as) "Not the 45 or LP version"?
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