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The numbers are in and Adele's new "30" did not even
approach one million total units. The total 839,000
album units consisted of sales (692,000), streaming
(141,000) and track sales (6,000). Although "25" was
withheld from streaming services for a few weeks after
its release, the sales of "30" were clearly not severely
impacted by its immediate availability on streaming
platforms.
If Adele cannot surpass one million units, will we ever
see another album do so again? In just one week, Adele
has the best selling album of 2021. Eleven months into
the year and not one album has sold over one million
units. Is this a turning point for the future of the
album format?
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Did they even press one million units?
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Even during the CD era, it was record setting if you moved a million units in a week. I'm curious to know out of the 692,000 "sales" what percent is physical product vs. paid digital downloads of the full album.
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Adele used to be one of the only reasons to buy a new CD. For anyone curious the 30 album is about 4 rungs lower in quality than the 21 album and about 3 rungs lower in quality than the 25 album and about 2 rungs lower than 19 album in quality.
Generally it is Target with the special editions having 2-3 tracks that are generally exclusive. Otherwise when every new release is digitalized and even Adele has 30 Vinyl LP pressed for the release it should tell you that the CD is fading.
With Spotify and Tidal and even Apple offering its music service etc the need for physical media on CD is getting lower and lower sadly.
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My local Target store now has a bigger selection of vinyl
albums than CDs. The local WalMart only has a single row
of CDs and just a few rows of vinyl.
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The nearest Target is a a couple hours' drive away, so I can't comment on that, but the "record dept" of the nearest Walmart
seems pretty meager in both LPs and CDs. CDs seem to win out by a bit, but not by much. I rarely see anyone browsing
either one.
I wonder how many people (music collectors excepted) even have CD players anymore outside of autos (and even there they're
disappearing).
Likewise, IMHO the concept of an "album" is fast becoming obsolete...why pay for a bunch of songs you may or may not listen
to when you can download/stream just the ones you want?
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It's a sad day indeed! I still believe the compact disc is
the standard and I do not understand this obsession to go
back to vinyl especially when the defect rate approaches
10% on many pressings. Discogs and to a greater extent
Youtube has refueled the vinyl format. Again it's easier
to show and market a product that is 12 inches over one
that is 5 inches. What I've spent my adult life doing is
dying a slow death!
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LunarLaugh wrote:
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Sony is reported to have pressed 500,000 on vinyl alone! Given the wide appeal across demos, I suspect we'll see strong sales through the end of the
year as a stocking stuffer.
Variety: Adele sends vinyl plants into
overdrive
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I worked with a guy in his early 20s about seven years ago, and he couldn't believe I actually still bought CDs.
Albums aren't dead, people just stream the albums. This younger generation doesn't care about owning things like we do.
Edited by Brian W. on 30 November 2021 at 2:19pm
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From my business's standpoint and everything being streamed
now by the public, when I am the DJ at an event, people
expect that I own every song that exists in the world in my
library. They are shocked if I don't have some odd album
track that nobody has ever heard of...except them.
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AutumnAarilyn wrote:
It's a sad day indeed! I still believe the compact disc is
the standard and I do not understand this obsession to go
back to vinyl especially when the defect rate approaches
10% on many pressings. Discogs and to a greater extent
Youtube has refueled the vinyl format. Again it's easier
to show and market a product that is 12 inches over one
that is 5 inches. What I've spent my adult life doing is
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I have to admit that I'm not with you there on the joys of CDs dominance. 1990 was a sad year for me, as vinyl disappeared from the stores. The next 17 years were spent searching out records to just find the product I wanted. Very taxing and hard.
Even though I know the purpose of this board is to find radio edits on CD, I simply use it to find out more information on the radio edits themselves. Provided you guys had all of the CDs you wanted, I'd sooner and happily take all of your 45-rpm and 12" promo records. :D
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eriejwg wrote:
From my business's standpoint and everything being streamed
now by the public, when I am the DJ at an event, people
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That's a major part of the reason why I don't do the DJ gig anymore.
Back when the majority of a party's population was based upon dance music that almost all of them knew, it was a lot less difficult striking up a set that would please
them all at some point. It was very upsetting to me seeing folks that didn't come to have a good time, but rather to hassle the guy behind the speakers. It was easy to
ignore for a while, though I found less and less fun being scoffed at because I didn't have the specific remix each of them wanted.
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AdvprosD wrote:
eriejwg wrote:
From my business's standpoint and everything being streamed
now by the public, when I am the DJ at an event, people
expect that I own every song that exists in the world in my
library. They are shocked if I don't have some odd album
track that nobody has ever heard of...except them. |
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That's a major part of the reason why I don't do the DJ gig anymore.
Back when the majority of a party's population was based upon dance music that almost all of them knew, it was
a lot less difficult striking up a set that would please
them all at some point. It was very upsetting to me seeing folks that didn't come to have a good time, but
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Same here, except I got out of it in the late 80s. Even by then, there were fewer and fewer across-the-board
hit songs, I especially noticed it at events like office parties, etc. where the attendees ranged in age from
their early 20s to their 60s...not many songs that appealed to more than a small group. Then there were they
guys who'd keep asking for all this rock stuff that would just clear the dance floor.
My hat is off to people like John who can still make a living doing this in today's highly fragmented
environment.
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Brian W. wrote:
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If this board had a "thumbs up" feature your comment would have gotten one.
My nephew would rather subscribe to spotify (which often times has non-hit versions of top songs) then take the time and actually discover what the true 45/single versions of these hits are.
Now don't get me wrong digital downloading has its advantages. I have found many a hit that is unavailable on CD through Qobuz/7 Digital/Itunes.
Just recently I bought 1985's Natalie Cole Dangerous album. Not likely to be on Spotify, Apple or any service and not available on Qobuz/7 Digital/Itunes. Only place to get it is the old fashioned CD!
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eriejwg wrote:
From my business's standpoint and everything being streamed
now by the public, when I am the DJ at an event, people
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That's because we are conditioned to believe that every song is out digitally on a CD or somewhere when the truth is that decades and decades of vinyl, 45's etc still have not made CD since the early 80's introduction.
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That's actually not the reason. People think DJs use the internet to DJ. They don't understand that most of the time our laptops are not even online, let alone linked up to a streaming service to play music.
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Jody Thornton wrote:
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Any chance you can make us proud and change your board name to youcantdownloadvinyl ? :)
Been waiting on someone on this board to do it, might as well be you!
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aaronk wrote:
| That's actually not the reason. People think DJs use the internet to DJ. They don't understand that most of the time our laptops are not even online, let alone linked up to a streaming service to play music. |
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I never once thought that DJ's stream. I did once upon a time think that every song was pretty much released as I heard it, which is a fallacy. The last time I hired a DJ was 1991, so what do I know?
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There have always been record buyers who purchased an
album for just one or two songs on it. The dueling "You
Light Up My Life" albums have always intrigued me. The
single was readily available and sold abundantly. Yet,
Debby Boone's album went Top 10 and platinum. The
soundtrack, which did not even feature the hit version
(!), went Top 20 and gold. I have always wondered how
many people who purchased either album ever listened to
more than just the opening track on each.
In today's streaming world, both albums would be
successful if people would only listen to "Light" and
none of the other tracks. Does this make an album a
success or just the song? I would love to see a
breakdown each week of how many points (streaming, sales)
each song on an album earned weekly to see how much the
whole album or a just few of its songs are contributing
to the album's chart position. After Adele's album bomb
clears the Hot 100 in the next 1-2 weeks, the only songs
likely left behind will be its current singles, "Easy On
Me" and "Oh My God." Should the success of just those
two songs make the entire "30" seem like a chart success?
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PopArchivist wrote:
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Any chance you can make us proud and change your board name to youcantdownloadvinyl ? :)
Been waiting on someone on this board to do it, might as well be you!
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Haaaaaaaa! That would be funny. Nut no I always put my name by my comments :)
Good suggestion though.
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