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Posted: 16 August 2022 at 8:00am \| IP Logged

Though it barely cracked the Hot 100, the song Nick Of Time
by Bonnie Raitt was a moderate success in the Boston radio
market at the time. Does anyone have the promo cd single or
promo 45? The promo 45 states a duration of 3:44 and the
promo cd has no track duration listed and whoever posted it
on Discogs did not bother to list the track time from a cd
player. I initially thought it was a printed track
duration error but then remember the song playing faster on
the radio. Can anyone confirm if the promo version is
pitched faster, a remix or an early fade?

Edited by promojunkie on 16 August 2022 at 8:04am

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Posted: 16 August 2022 at 8:23am \| IP Logged

I'm curious about this one too as I carry the song in my
library. But, it's the 3:49 album version. It could just be
an earlier fade or a case of a 3:44 listed, 3:49 actual.

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Posted: 16 August 2022 at 10:40am \| IP Logged

The versions released on the CD TM Century HitDisc (799A -
837A), described a shorter time than the album version
(3:52), but I don't have those CDs and I can't corroborate
this information, maybe another member can.

CD 799A: 3:29
CD 837A: 3:36

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Edited by kaqueno on 16 August 2022 at 10:43am

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Posted: 16 August 2022 at 10:44am \| IP Logged

This may pose more questions than it answers. My Capitol
CD, CDP7 91268 2, Nick Of Time, runs 3:49 as does my 45 RPM
single, as
does an English E.P. 'Good Man, Good Woman', Capitol 7243 8
80151 2 7. 'The Best Of Bonnie Raitt on Capitol' CDP 7243 5
90491 2, is
not only speeded up by a few seconds, but clocks in at 4:04
and that makes it significantly longer. -Bill.

Edited by ChicagoBill on 16 August 2022 at 10:59am

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Posted: 16 August 2022 at 11:06am \| IP Logged

The difference in speed between the 2 CD's I mentioned above is only 1.2 seconds. So....-Bill.

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Posted: 16 August 2022 at 12:13pm \| IP Logged

kaqueno wrote:

I probably have them, could send copies to you if you wanted to do comparative analysis.

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Posted: 16 August 2022 at 12:38pm \| IP Logged

kaqueno wrote:

Please be aware that TM Century HitDisc and GoldDisc CDs list the "air" time and not the full run time. The times listed are when the DJ should be starting the next song or element.

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Posted: 16 August 2022 at 1:45pm \| IP Logged

aaronk wrote:

kaqueno wrote:

Please be aware that TM Century HitDisc and GoldDisc CDs
list the "air" time and not the full run time. The times
listed are when the DJ should be starting the next song
or element.

Very interesting your contribution Aaron

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Posted: 16 August 2022 at 2:25pm \| IP Logged

I have a few files on the hard drive (so I don't know the exact sources), but all play at the same speed. All of the fades start in the same place, but the tail of the fade is shortened or truncated on a few of them.

I'm willing to bet that the difference in timings is due to where the fade is truncated.

I grabbed a YouTube dub of "Nick Of Time" from The Best Of Bonnie Raitt On Capitol 19892003, and it runs 0.37% slower than the Nick Of Time album, which is real but insignificant. But the tail of the fade goes on about 30 beats longer than the Nick Of Time album, which is quite real and quite significant. The fade is over 30 seconds long on The Best Of Bonnie Raitt On Capitol 19892003! I can see why someone shortened it for the 1989 releases.

Edited by crapfromthepast on 16 August 2022 at 2:41pm

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Posted: 16 August 2022 at 8:38pm \| IP Logged

crapfromthepast wrote:

I have the 1990 Hot 100 hit running 3:50. Since it is 1990, one has to turn to the cassette for that era. That appears to run 3:52. No reason to believe the promo runs shorter either (DPRO-79721)

https://www.discogs.com/release/10119992-Bonnie-Raitt-Nick-O f-Time

The 45 might have a few second fade which would explain the 3:44. But lately I can attest discogs has not been as accurate as one would think...

Edited by PopArchivist on 16 August 2022 at 8:39pm

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Posted: 17 August 2022 at 7:30am \| IP Logged

I think I might have solved the mystery. I have an old
cassette tape that I made back in the early 90's that has
this song on it and most likely from the promo cd during my
radio days. It does run faster than the LP version. I
think this is a similar situation to Peabo Bryson "If Ever
You're In My Arms Again" where the radio version was sped
up to appeal to top 40 radio. Maybe if someone on the
forum has the promo cd single they can confirm.

Edited by promojunkie on 18 August 2022 at 9:45am

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Posted: 17 August 2022 at 8:59pm \| IP Logged

kaqueno wrote:

The actual time on HitDisc 799A is 3:44. Keep in mind
that many of the HitDiscs around this time were mastered
from vinyl.

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Posted: 18 August 2022 at 9:33am \| IP Logged

prisdeej wrote:

The actual time on HitDisc 799A is 3:44. Keep in mind
that many of the HitDiscs around this time were mastered
from vinyl.

Is the 3:44 version an earlier fade of the 3:49 or is it
sped up to run 3:44?

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Posted: 27 August 2022 at 2:14pm \| IP Logged

Closing the loop on this. Aaron send me a dub of the promo
cd and the single version is indeed pitched faster for a
track duration of 3:47 instead of the LP speed and duration
of 3:50.

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Posted: 27 August 2022 at 9:48pm \| IP Logged

Does this mean the TM Century file fades out 3 seconds
earlier than the promo CD single?

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Posted: 28 August 2022 at 6:48am \| IP Logged

eriejwg wrote:

Does this mean the TM Century file fades
out 3 seconds
earlier than the promo CD single?

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The version included on the TM Century album (799A), has
a real running time of 3:42, i'm not sure if it's a
version that runs faster than the album version or has
some editing.

I was able to get a few copies of the versions included
on the TM Century HitDiscs, thanks to Dave and can say
the following:

CD 799A: 3:29 - with a real time of 3:42, bpm 121

CD 837A: 3:36 - with a real time of 3:50, bpm 118

version The Best Of Bonnie Raitt: 4:04 - with a real time
of 4:04, bpm 119

Perhaps there is another more expert member and can give
more details

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Posted: 28 August 2022 at 9:33am \| IP Logged

eriejwg wrote:

Does this mean the TM Century file fades out 3 seconds
earlier than the promo CD single?

Yes. The promo CD runs 3:47.

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Posted: 28 August 2022 at 9:38am \| IP Logged

If you go to youtube, the official video matches this promo
single regarding speed and length. I have no idea where
the 4:04 version that is on her greatest hits comes from.
Could be the original was trimmed down for the 1989 cd and
all pressings at that time and left in tact for the hits
album. Just a theory, not fact.

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Posted: 28 August 2022 at 12:34pm \| IP Logged

I can confirm that the promo CD single runs exactly 2.0% faster than the LP version. All else is basically the same.

The very tail of the fade on the promo CD single runs about 5 beats longer than the version I have on Time-Life's Rolling Stone Collection 1988-1989, but I don't know if the Time-Life disc shortened the tail of the fade from the Bonnie Raitt full-length CD.

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