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Although not officially released as a single, Whitney Houston's "All At Once" received airplay on both pop and R&B stations across the United States.
99% of the releases around the world list the single as identical to the album length, 4:28-ish.
There's one exception: Germany, where the single's label claims it runs 4:08.
Does anybody have a copy of this 7" German single? Is it actually an early fade, or is the label incorrect?
I'm suspecting a misprint, but the completest in me has to know.
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Actually, you could say it was officially released as a single, given that it is
the B-side of “Saving All My Love For You.” It has a printed time of 4:26.
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Arista president Clive Davis was notorious for shortening the times of
singles as they were printed on the 45 label, so more DJs would be willing
to play them. Not sure if he'd be
involved in a German release, but it wouldn't surprise me if 4:28 was
changed to 4:08 to make it seem like the song was shorter.
So your suspecting it is a misprint is probably correct. Also, "All at Once"
was a single in quite a few European territories as the 1st single from the
album IIRC (before or at the same time as "You Give Good Love"s release in
the USA.) So if there was an early fade for it, I'd think the other countries
would release the same shorter version.
BTW, All At Once is one of my favorite songs of all time, and my favorite
Whitney song. I read somewhere recently (maybe the Billboard Book of #1
AC hits) that Clive was considering "All At Once" as the 1st single in the US,
then ultimately went with "Good Love", and made "All At Once" as an early
B-side, just as he did with "Greatest Love of All" as a B-side as one of the
early singles.
We'll never know for sure but if he had released "All At Once" after
"Greatest Love", I think it would have gone to #1. But he probably didn't
want 2 similar-sounding Michael Masser singles in a row, especially knowing
"Didn't We Almost Had It All" (the third in that trilogy) would be coming
soon. That was my theory back in '86. And btw, "Saving All My Love..." was
a Masser-penned song, too - but a definitely different feel than the other 3
songs I mentioned (He also wrote Whitney's earlier single - "Hold Me" with
Teddy Pendergrass).
Edited by EdisonLite on 13 May 2023 at 11:55pm
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EdisonLite wrote:
BTW, All At Once is one of my favorite
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No doubt, it is an outstanding song.
A few years ago when I saw Jeffrey Osborne do a NY State-
sponsored free concert, he performed this song because he
wrote the lyrics to it.
He, of course, really performed it well - and I wouldn't be
surprised if it was the most profitable work in his career.
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
He, of course, really performed it well - and I wouldn't be
surprised if it was the most profitable work in his career.
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I read an interview with him where he said exactly that. He made more money
off "All At Once" than any song of his that HE recorded.
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Gene:
In the year 2020 in Netherlands a 4 cd box was released
where this single "All At Once" by Whitney Houston was
included, with a time of 3:58, maybe it is a fade
version, I don't know, since I couldn't compare it with
the version lp.
Unfortunately this box is not uploaded to discogs, but I
found it for sale on amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/-/es/Various-Artists/dp/B086LF1C8K
If you need a copy in mp3, I'll send it to you to compare
and inform us about it.
cheers
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NightAire wrote:
Although not officially released as a single, Whitney Houston's "All At Once" received airplay on both pop and R&B stations across the United States.
99% of the releases around the world list the single as identical to the album length, 4:28-ish.
There's one exception: Germany, where the single's label claims it runs 4:08.
Does anybody have a copy of this 7" German single? Is it actually an early fade, or is the label incorrect?
I'm suspecting a misprint, but the completest in me has to know. |
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I have the German promo 7". My copy is a bit crackly, but I timed it at 4.17.
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Marcelo, is your mp3 copy of All At Once also 4:17, like 75azabache's (Ben's)?
And Ben, is your 4:17 version just an early fade of the full 4:28 version?
And btw, up above when I said this is one of my favorite songs of all time - well
I just realized I just mentioned the 4:28 timing not by looking at what's above,
but just from memory. I can't say that for too many of my favorite songs.
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EdisonLite wrote:
Marcelo, is your mp3 copy of All At
Once also 4:17, like 75azabache's (Ben's)?
And Ben, is your 4:17 version just an early fade of the
full 4:28 version?
And btw, up above when I said this is one of my favorite
songs of all time - well
I just realized I just mentioned the 4:28 timing not by
looking at what's above,
but just from memory. I can't say that for too many of my
favorite songs.
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Gene: My copy has a duration of 3:58, I did not do a
comparison with the LP version, to determine if it is an
early fade version or if it is the Edit version, I have
no problem sending you a copy so that you can compare and
give us more information.
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Thanks Marcelo. Please check your Private Messenger.
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EdisonLite wrote:
Thanks Marcelo. Please check your
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check in your mail, thanks
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I listened to the short version on the 2020 Netherlands 4 cd box set, and it's
not an edit. Or a new mix. It's simply an early fade. In fact, the start of the fade
is quite abrupt (to my ears).
If I'm correct and the only known existence of this song as a 45 is in Germany,
and not the Netherlands, and since this timing of the version on the box is
3:58 and not the apparent German 45 timing of 4:08, this could have simply
been faded to 3:58 for the Netherlands box set, for timing purposes or other
reasons.
So until someone has the German 45, we won't know if it's an edit or fade.
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EdisonLite wrote:
I listened to the short version on
the 2020 Netherlands 4 cd box set, and it's
not an edit. Or a new mix. It's simply an early fade. In
fact, the start of the fade
is quite abrupt (to my ears).
If I'm correct and the only known existence of this song
as a 45 is in Germany,
and not the Netherlands, and since this timing of the
version on the box is
3:58 and not the apparent German 45 timing of 4:08, this
could have simply
been faded to 3:58 for the Netherlands box set, for
timing purposes or other
reasons.
So until someone has the German 45, we won't know if it's
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Gordon: thanks for the information.
Edited by kaqueno on 01 August 2023 at 4:59am
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EdisonLite wrote:
I listened to the short version on the 2020 Netherlands 4 cd box set, and it's
not an edit. Or a new mix. It's simply an early fade. In fact, the start of the fade
is quite abrupt (to my ears).
If I'm correct and the only known existence of this song as a 45 is in Germany,
and not the Netherlands, and since this timing of the version on the box is
3:58 and not the apparent German 45 timing of 4:08, this could have simply
been faded to 3:58 for the Netherlands box set, for timing purposes or other
reasons.
So until someone has the German 45, we won't know if it's an edit or fade. |
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I have the German 45, I'll DM you a link.
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Thanks to Ben, I listened to his German 45 and can confirm it's an early fade -
by 11 seconds - which is kind of a shame because it leaves out the last high,
held note of "once.....".
Not a different mix either. In my earlier post I was going to say I bet it's not a
different mix, because how often do early Whitney Houston ballads have
different mixes for their singles? ... until I remembered "Greatest Love of All".
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NightAire wrote:
Although not officially released as a single, Whitney
Houston's "All At Once" received airplay on both pop and R&B stations
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I meant to respond to this earlier. It was also a huge hit on AC radio. Where I
lived, outside DC, it was played as if it was the followup single to "Greatest
Love of All". I mean, as much as that song. I believe the pop stations, too,
not
just AC. And I remember it charting pretty high somewhere, like #9 or at
least
top 15. It might have been a local radio station. Or could it have been R&R's
AC
chart? Record Research has only published their pop chart, not their AC
chart.
So I don't really have a way of telling if All At Once made Radio & Records
AC
chart.
EDIT: Is there a website that publishes peak position for R&R's AC chart? Or
even their weekly AC charts?
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EdisonLite wrote:
NightAire wrote:
Although not officially released as a single, Whitney
Houston's "All At Once" received airplay on both pop and R&B stations
across
the United States. |
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I meant to respond to this earlier. It was also a huge hit on AC radio. Where I
lived, outside DC, it was played as if it was the followup single to "Greatest
Love of All". I mean, as much as that song. I believe the pop stations, too,
not
just AC. And I remember it charting pretty high somewhere, like #9 or at
least
top 15. It might have been a local radio station. Or could it have been R&R's
AC
chart? Record Research has only published their pop chart, not their AC
chart.
So I don't really have a way of telling if All At Once made Radio & Records
AC
chart.
EDIT: Is there a website that publishes peak position for R&R's AC chart? Or
even their weekly AC charts? |
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I went to the World History Website and saw the R & R issue of 8-15-86 that All At Once peaked at #23 on A/C.
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Thanks Gary. Are most of R&R's AC charts at that website?
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EdisonLite wrote:
Thanks Gary. Are most of R&R's AC
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Most of R&R's ENTIRE ISSUES
are at that website (worldradiohistory.com)!
Andy
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Thanks Andy!
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