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Posted: 26 March 2024 at 3:58pm | IP Logged Quote jebsib

As an old-school collector, I evolved from 45s to Cassingles & CD singles, then
to mP3s on iTunes.

And, just like when physical singles started to die out, I have a sense that the
writing is on the wall for downloads (and has been for years).

It's hard to put my finger on it, but there's something unsatisfying to me about
not physically owning something in my music library - even if it's just an mp3
file... do you guys feel the same way, or are you embracing the future and
streaming on Spotify, Pandora, etc?
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Posted: 26 March 2024 at 4:04pm | IP Logged Quote FrankG

I feel exactly the same way. I even prefer holding a 45
in my hands as opposed to knowing I have the mp3 on my
computer. (Although having 3000 songs on my iPhone at the
same time is an amazing experience the 17 year old me
could never have imagined.). I appreciate streaming, but
there is something special about music in its physical
form.
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Posted: 26 March 2024 at 4:29pm | IP Logged Quote thecdguy

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As an old-school collector, I evolved from 45s to
Cassingles & CD singles, then
to mP3s on iTunes


Me too! I dread the day there's no more downloads
available. Streaming is nice, but you never really know if
a song you enjoy listening to on a streaming service is
always going to be there, as an artist or label can pull
their music off the service. For that reason I'll never
completely embrace streaming. Much better to have a
physical copy of it or at least a download that you can
listen to without fear of it disappearing one day.

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Posted: 26 March 2024 at 5:55pm | IP Logged Quote PopArchivist

No, never. No reason to.

A good percentage of streaming services have the incorrect 45 and like Dan said above, can pull their music at a whim. I cant embrace streaming and would rather have the physical music.

Its happened too often that an artist complains they are not compensated and yanks all their songs from streaming.

The better question -- Is the CD dead yet? Its almost there. Nothing new comes out on it (exception: Taylor Swift and Adele every few years). Otherwise digital is the way to go in this new age.

I do agree having thousands of songs available to you ripped rather than have thousands of CD's is way more appealing. I remember struggling to assemble even the top 10 during the early 2000's when the P2P era was. Storage wasn't what it was now. My teenage self would have sat for hours organizing music if technology was as advanced as it was now.

Can't do much in an era when 128 bit rate mp3 downloads were considered "fast" and USB storage wasn't in existence yet and AOL took forever to log in. Ah the memories.

Edited by PopArchivist on 26 March 2024 at 5:56pm


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Posted: 29 March 2024 at 7:01am | IP Logged Quote jebsib

Feel the same way - am dreading the point when Record Labels don't bother
throwing songs / albums up on iTunes - just a matter of time.

I suppose an alternative is to 'record' songs off Youtube (a modern version of
taping off the radio!) but still...
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Posted: 29 March 2024 at 8:21am | IP Logged Quote Paul C

The current #1 song on the Hot 100, "Lose Control" by Teddy
Swims, sold only 8,000 downloads last week.
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Posted: 29 March 2024 at 4:50pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

I have had DJ subscription services since 1994. All of the
current music I have is from the Promo Only POOL. Prior to
that, I had TM's PrimeCuts and Top Hits U.S.A.. I don't
stream my music at events I do, I only purchase through
Qobuz, iTunes and Amazon if need be. Can't remember the
last time I bought a physical CD.

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Posted: 30 March 2024 at 5:34pm | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

I buy physical product AND enjoy streaming. In the past year or so, I've bought new CDs by Kelly Clarkson, Pink, Benson Boone, Ava Max, Pentatonix, Lauren Spencer Smith, Anne-Marie, Meghan Trainor, Belinda Carlisle,
Michael Bolton, Eurovision 2023, some European artists, and others. In most cases, though, I can only buy WAV/flacs from Qobuz or 7 Digital. When I can't, then it's m4a from iTunes, but that's only rare occasions when I
have to go "that low", lol.

But there's over 200 new songs I buy each year that I discover because I
listen to 2 weekly Spotify lists that are curated based on my tastes. It's my
"new radio" - as I really never listen to FM radio anymore. And most of what
makes the top 40 I don't like (most of the Hot 100). But I do like a fair
amount from Billboard's Hot AC & (regular) AC charts & SXM's The Pulse.
So streaming on Spotify is definitely something I embrace. It's how I get
turned on to most of my favorite songs each year!

And I agree - I don't like the fact that labels can take down any songs they
want. It's one reason why I always buy digital downloads of songs I like.

I'm guessing that CDs will not be made some day. (C'mon, 40 years from
now??) But like vinyl, after they gone, I predict they'll be back.
Unfortunately, I'll probably be gone by then, too :)

What's scary to me is if apple takes down their iTunes store, and Qobuz,
7Digital & other sites like those go away. Then there will literally be no way
to buy anything - on CD, or WAV format, or mp3s. Literally, the record labels
will choose to have ZERO record sales - just streaming royalties. For people
that want some permanent digital format, what will be left to do? Record off
YouTube, Spotify and sites like that?? Will that day come, guys?

Edited by EdisonLite on 30 March 2024 at 7:01pm
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Posted: 04 April 2024 at 7:32am | IP Logged Quote westofrome

Like a lot of people, I think, I've long left behind CDs
and mp3s, and enjoy a mix of streaming (Spotify) and
vinyl collecting.

It's true that things come and go from streaming and
there's plenty that has never been available. On the
other hand, I have access to an unfathomable amount of
music at a very low price - and for fans of pop singles,
a regular stream of reissues with single edits released
all the time. For me, that's a reasonable trade-off. But
I'm just an enthusiast and not someone who needs
professional access to specific files at specific times.

Shameless plug, I've got a playlist on Spotify where I'm
adding every 80s charting pop single and/or single pick
across the three US trades, with single edits preferred.
I'm only through mid-April 1980, but I add songs most
days and plan on periodically checking for missing songs
and single edits and refreshing the list (just re-added
Neil Young's live Cinnamon Girl, which was a pick).
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5PC0rpT8Hh8uH4FV69tZCo
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Posted: 10 April 2024 at 10:15am | IP Logged Quote whyaduck

I have 100% totally embraced SELF Streaming via playback of rips of my CD, SACD, Vinyl from my on-premises NAS devices.

The question is that really considered streaming?

P.S. Yes I do have off-site back-ups that are never more than 2 weeks behind in data.
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Posted: 24 April 2024 at 12:09am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

thecdguy wrote:
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As an old-school collector, I evolved from 45s to
Cassingles & CD singles, then
to mP3s on iTunes


Me too! I dread the day there's no more downloads
available. Streaming is nice, but you never really know if
a song you enjoy listening to on a streaming service is
always going to be there, as an artist or label can pull
their music off the service. For that reason I'll never
completely embrace streaming. Much better to have a
physical copy of it or at least a download that you can
listen to without fear of it disappearing one day.


This.

Warning: Do not ever become so complacent that you think you can rely solely on streaming services for all your music listening needs. Any songs that you do not physically own a copy of -- or at the very least have a lossless file copy securely saved and stored away on a hard drive -- are absolutely subject to being taken away from you at any point and time in the future by "the powers that be" (whoever they are at any point and time)!   

Edited by Todd Ireland on 09 May 2024 at 1:50am
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Posted: 24 April 2024 at 4:36am | IP Logged Quote Hykker

whyaduck wrote:
I have 100% totally embraced SELF Streaming via playback of rips of my CD, SACD, Vinyl from my on-premises NAS devices.


Yeah, same here. I can't think of a single reason I'd want to use Pandora, Spotify, etc. when I can put together my own playlists. I don't own
any "mobile devices" so those services are minimally useful to me anyway.

For listening while driving I take a slightly different approach...I put together these mix files using a freeware program called Zararadio. I
won't go into the boring details, but I'll let it run in roughly one hour segments, run thru some audio compression and saved as mp3 files that
I'll put on a flash drive. Since I'm an old-line radio guy, I'll have a jingle every 2nd or 3rd song, helps with what could be some trainwreck
segues.

Todd Ireland wrote:
Warning: Do not ever become so complacent that you think you can rely solely on streaming services for all your music
listening needs. Any songs that you do not physically own a copy of -- or at the very least have a lossless file copy securely saved and stored
away on a hard drive -- are absolutely subject to being taken away from you at any point and time in the future by "the powers that be"
(whoever they are at any point and time)!   


Yeah. Bad enough with tv streaming services, they never seem to fail to drop a series just as I'm getting into the middle of it. I don't know if
the paid services are as bad, but the Roku channel is notorious for this. Sometimes a show will return at some later date, sometimes not.
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