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jimct MusicFan
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Since there are many "Are the hit mixes on CD?" inquiries popping up about those hard-to-locate, late 80's hits, I thought I'd just pull out and list what I DO have, on either Promo or Import CD singles, for the benefit of the group. I'm not gonna listen for actual times; I'll list printed times. If anyone has follow-up questions, I'll do my best to address them:
Heart-"Alone" (DPRO-79024)1-(no listed time) (3:35)
Whitney Houston-"I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Who Loves Me)" (ASCD-9599)
1-Single Version (4:52)
2-12" Remix-Radio Edit (4:51)
3-12" Remix (8:33)
Aretha Franklin & George MIchael-"I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me)" (ASCD-9560)
1-Album Version (4:01)
2-Edited Remix (From The 12" Single) (5:29)
Michael Jackson-"Bad" (ESK 2808)
1-Dance Extended Mix - includes "False Fade" (8:24)
2-7" Single Mix (4:05)
3-Dance Remix Radio Edit (4:50)
4-Dub Version (4:05)
5-A Cappella (3:49)
Belinda Carlisle-"Heaven Is A Place On Earth" (CD45-17397)
1-(4:05)
Michael Jackson-"I Just Can't Stop Loving You" (ESK-2750)
1-(4:10)
Fleetwood Mac-"Little Lies" (PRO-CD-2821)
1-LP Version (3:38)
2-Extended Version 12" Mix (6:15)
Gloria Estefan And Miami Sound Machine-"Rhythm Is Gonna Get You" (ASK 2700)
1-7" version (no time listed) (3:53)
2-12" version (no time listed)
3-Dub Mix (no time listed)
Fleetwood Mac-"Big Love" (PRO-CD-2710)
1-(3:37)
John Cougar Mellencamp-"Paper In Fire" (CDP 03)
1-(3:53)
We received import CD singles as well, to use on-air - I will include them, and others, as I come upon them filed:
George Michael-"I Want Your Sex"
1-Monogamy Mix (13:13)
2-Rhythm 1 Lust (no listed time)
3-Rhythm 2 Brass In Love (no listed time)
4-Rhythm 3 A Last Request (no listed time)
Genesis-"Tonight, Tonight, Tonight"
1-Edited Remix (this was the popular remix version that radio played) (no listed time) (4:24)
2-(Different track)
3-(Different track)
4-12" remix (no listed time)
ABC-"When Smokey Sings"
1-7" version (4:21)
2-(Different track)
3-(Different track)
4-The Miami Mix (7:02)
Much more to come, if there is sufficient interest.
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 12 June 2006 at 3:08pm | IP Logged
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12 more will wrap up 1987:
Cutting Crew-"I've Been In Love Before" (PRCD2076)
1-Edit Version (3:55)
2-LP Version (5:27)
(Import) Pet Shop Boys-"It's A Sin"
1-7" version (no listed time)(4:56)
2-(Different track)
3-Disco Mix (no listed time)
Grateful Dead-"Touch Of Grey" (ASCD 9606)
1-Long Version (no listed time)
2-Short Version (no listed time)(4:31)
Starship-"It's Not Over ('Til It's Over)" (6478-2-GDJ)
1-Rock Mix (4:32)
2-Tom Mix (4:16)
U2-"Where The Streets Have No Name" (PR-2104-2)
1-(4:46)
Aerosmith-"Dude (Looks Like A Lady)" (PRO-CD-2794)
1-(4:23)
Michael Bolton-"That's What Love Is All About" (CSK 2781)
1-(no listed time)(3:52)
Mr. Mister-"Something Real (Inside Me/Inside You)" (6601-2-RDJ)
1-(4:19)
New Order-"True Faith" (PRO-CD-2899)
1-The Morning Sun Remix/Edit (4:04)
2-Album Edit (4:10)
3-The Morning Sun Extended Remix (8:59)
Wa Wa Nee-"Sugar Free" (ESK 2788)
1-(4:03)
2-Extended Mix (7:54)
Gloria Estefan And Miami Sound Machine-"Betcha Say That" (ESK 2789)
1-(3:40)
Mick Jagger-"Let's Work" (CSK 2771)
1-Single Version (3:58)
2-Album Version (4:49)
3-Dance Edit (5:04)
4-Dance Mix (7:20)
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Brian W. MusicFan
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Posted: 12 June 2006 at 3:45pm | IP Logged
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Thanks for the info, Jim! Though I believe (I assume) the listing for tracks 2-4 on "I Want Your Sex" is simply a breakdown of the three parts of track one, which would be the long version of the song. That would explain why there's no running time listed on tracks 2-4.
The long version was also issued on an import CD single and a domestic 3-inch. (Though the domestic version strangely seemed to use the compressed analog cutting master of this digital recording. The domestic 3-inch also clips the first note of Part II of the song, which the import does not.)
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elcoleccionista MusicFan
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Posted: 12 June 2006 at 3:59pm | IP Logged
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Sounds fun to me Jim, a great idea. I suspect between all of us we can come up with quite a nice reference list.
Here are some contributions for 1987:
PROMOS (USA except noted)
Whitney Houston-So Emotional (ASCD-9641)
1.Single Version (4:00)
2.Extended Remix (7:45)
3.Edited Remix (4:36)
4.Dub Version (5:10)
5.Bonus Beats (4:24)
6.The Voice (4:10)
Herb Alpert featuring Janet Jackson-Diamonds (Japan)
1.Diamonds (Cool Summer Mix)
2.Diamonds (Cool Summer Dance Mix)
3.Diamonds (Cool Summer Instrumental)
4.Diamonds (Cool Summer Dub)
5.Diamonds (Cool Summer 7" Edit)
6.Diamonds (Dance Mix)
7.Diamonds (Instrumental)
8.Diamonds (Beats Dubcappella)
Expose-Seasons Change (ASCD9639)
1.Single Version (4:15)
2.Crossover Mix (5:20)
3.Extended Remix (7:45)
4.Megamix (10:00)
COMMERCIAL (for UK/German market unless noted)
Whitney Houston-I Wanna Dance With Somebody
1.12" Remix
2.Moment Of Truth
3.Dub Mix
Whitney Houston-Didn't We Almost Have It All
1.Version unreferenced (plays album version) (5:05)
2.I Wanna Dance With Somebody (Acapella) (5:18)
3.Shock Me (duet with Jermaine Jackson) (5:05)
Whitney Houston-So Emotional
1.Extended Remix (7:51)
2.Didn't We Almost Have It All (Live) (6:28)
3.For The Love Of You (4:32) *
* An edit of a non-single from the album, interestingly enough
Bangles-Hazy Shade Of Winter
1.Purple Haze Mix (4:59)
2.Dub/Shady Haze Version) (5:01) *
3.She's Lost You (Joan Jett track) (2:56)
4.Walk Like An Egyptian (Extended Dance Mix) (5:48)
* This version is a remix/edit but once it's over it stars playing backwards...talk about satanic messages : p
Michael Jackson-Bad (Japan)
1.Dance Extended Mix Includes "False Fade"
2.7" Single Mix
3.Dance Remix Radio Edit
4.Dub Version
5.A Capella
Heart-Who Will You Run To
1.Rock Mix
2.These Dreams
3.Nobody Home
4.Single Version
Heart-There's The Girl
1.12" Remix
2.Alone
3.Bad Animals
4.7" Remix *
This is the video version, earlier discussed in the forum
Tiffany-Could've Been
1.7" version (plays album version) (3:31)
2.Could've Been (Extended Version) (5:56)
3.The Heart Of Love (3:57)
4.I Think We're Alone Now (3:47)
Belinda Carlisle-Heaven Is A Place On Earth
1.Version unreferenced (plays album version)
2.We Can Change
3.Heavenly Version
4.Acapella Version
Edited by elcoleccionista on 12 June 2006 at 4:01pm
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 12 June 2006 at 4:04pm | IP Logged
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Thanks, Brian. Again, I'm just sort-of "mass-producing" this information. Import CD singles are notorious for vague details, no listed cut #s, etc. I wasn't gonna list 'em AT ALL, but there are several desired versions on some that MAY make them of interest to the group. I'd just like to reiterate that, with THIS many songs involved, I'm only providing "thumbnail" details; not my usual double/triple-checking of "every little detail." Remember, I'm NOT playing them, to check listed details. I hope that this has been noted, and that what I AM providing will still be of help.
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 12 June 2006 at 4:13pm | IP Logged
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Johann: As for "which year?", I file my stuff using the Joel Whitburn/Billboard books. He lists "So Emotional", "Seasons Change", "Hazy Shade Of Winter", "There's The Girl" and "Could've Been" as ALL reaching their chart peak during 1988, although they probably first came out in the final weeks of 1987. Some interesting additions nonetheless, my friend.
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elcoleccionista MusicFan
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Jim, what is the catalog number of your "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" single?
Mine is DRAW412, and the reason I ask is because although the disc itself lists it as "remix", it plays a shorter album version with no added production.
Or does the fact that there is a "blend" of sections at 2:39 and not a "cold" cut make it eligible to be called "Remix"?
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elcoleccionista MusicFan
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Posted: 12 June 2006 at 4:18pm | IP Logged
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I thought chart debut was the criteria, not peak, sorry! : )
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jimct MusicFan
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I have the same one, Johann, DRAW412. To answer your question as to wording, the outer paper sleeve for Cut 1 says "Edited Version", and on the CD itself, Cut 1 says "Remix." I have NO idea why the record companies use certain words to describe mixes. Yes, there are "common sense" conclusions we can draw, but I'm just trying to duplicate whatever it says on the CD single itself, to provide the the group.
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elcoleccionista MusicFan
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I understand your point, so is this in your opinion a remix then?
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jim....does the promo cd single of "touch of grey" contain the correct 45 length.....all cd version that state a run time around 4:31 run about 3 seconds short.....i'm hoping this will be like the belinda carlisle cd single which you state has the correct 0:03 extended version........lmk edtop40
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jimct MusicFan
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My description of "popular remix" next to "Tonight..." MAY have been an error, Johann. The Whitburn book says (4:32) for the 45 time - our CD is 4:24. I KNOW we got two "Land Of Confusion" promo 45s; I THOUGHT we also got two for "Tonight...", but I could be wrong - I will go through my '87 promo 45 box later tonight to check. I know the song well, but I can't dissect the "note-for-note" of hit songs like you guys can. Therefore, I am not qualified to offer you an accurate opinion on that.
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Ed: For the "key" versions, containing "no listed time", I DID go to the bother to time them myself. The (4:31) timing came from my stop watch, nowhere else. So it sounds like another "good news, Mad About You" for you, with those FEW extra missing seconds you've been looking for being included on my promo CD single.
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OUTSTANDING!!!!.....you know what to do wit dat info!!!!
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 12 June 2006 at 7:46pm | IP Logged
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Copy that, good buddy, for sure, for sure......
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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I'm wit you, Ed! Excellent info, Jim and Johann! What more can I say? You guys are great!
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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jimct wrote:
Fleetwood Mac-"Little Lies" (PRO-CD-2821)
1-LP Version (3:38)
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I don't have a copy of the 12" vinyl single for verification, but I'm almost certain the "Little Lies" Extended Version 12" Mix appears on the various artist CD Lost Mixes: Rare Rock Mixes (JCI 3122). The database currently describes the 6:14 version appearing on this CD as: (remixed) .
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If anybody is interested in more versions of "Little Lies" on CD, the dub is available on the German "I Do" CD single (1995).
Track listing is:
I Do (Edit)
Talkin' To My Heart
Little Lies (Extended Version)
Little Lies (Dub)
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edtop40 wrote:
jim....does the promo cd single of "touch of grey" contain the correct 45 length.....all cd version that state a run time around 4:31 run about 3 seconds short.....i'm hoping this will be like the belinda carlisle cd single which you state has the correct 0:03 extended version........lmk edtop40 |
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I recently picked up a promo cd single for this when i was visiting my old hometown of Frederick, MD. I hesitated spending $4.90 for a cd with only two tracks on it (long and short versions) but being that this was one of my all time favorite songs as a kid growing up in the late 80's and the 90's, i had to get it.
The long version reads 5:52 in winamp (also in musicmatch jukebox) and fades out at 5:46. The short version reads 4:35 in winamp (and musicmatch jukebox) and fades out at 4:33. While i do own the single in both grey and black vinyl pressings, neither is accessable at the moment for comparison to the cd single. I will gladly shoot out a dub of the short version off of this cd to anyone that wants it, though.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Tom:
If I'm not mistaken, the short version of "Touch of Grey" on your promo CD single is the same as the 45 version, which has been issued on a number of CDs. However, a quick check of the database shows the 45 version runs :03-:04 short on most of these CDs, so I would be interested in a wave file dub of your promo.
By the way, since this thread has come back up, can anyone verify if the "Extended Version 12-Inch Mix" on the Fleetwood Mac "Little Lies" promo CD single is what appears on the Lost Mixes: Rare Rock Mixes various artist CD (JCI 3122)? The run times match up, which leads me to believe they may be the same verson.
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