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Posted: 31 October 2006 at 1:14pm | IP Logged Quote budaniel
I have an import CD single of this track that includes radio edit, album version, and instrumental. For the life of me, I can not figure out how the 2 vocal versions differ. When I pop the disc into Itunes, radio edit comes up as 3:52, album version comes up as 3:48. When I play both tracks, the song officially stops at 3:46. I followed along with the lyrics, they are the same. The mixes sound exactly alike also. Can ANYONE shed any light on this situation? Thanks.
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Posted: 31 October 2006 at 1:25pm | IP Logged Quote budaniel
and while I'm on an Ashanti kick, does anyone know what the highest charting position was for the song "Baby"? Thanks!
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Posted: 31 October 2006 at 3:46pm | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney
"Baby" peaked at #15 on the Hot 100.
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Posted: 31 October 2006 at 4:29pm | IP Logged Quote Gary
To confuse the issue even more, I have a radio edit fading at 3:38 and ending at 3:41. I also have a version called [Main] and that fades at 3:40 and then you can lightly hear it end completly at 3:46.




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I have an import CD single of this track that includes radio edit, album version, and instrumental. For the life of me, I can not figure out how the 2 vocal versions differ. When I pop the disc into Itunes, radio edit comes up as 3:52, album version comes up as 3:48. When I play both tracks, the song officially stops at 3:46. I followed along with the lyrics, they are the same. The mixes sound exactly alike also. Can ANYONE shed any light on this situation? Thanks.
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Posted: 10 October 2012 at 7:50pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
When I was working in Detroit radio at the time this song was a hit, our station also played "Unfoolish," which is the remix to "Foolish." This track is included on the Ashanti full-length album, but it's currently not noted in the database.

Should "Unfoolish" be included in the database, since it's a remix that did receive airplay? If I had to guess, both versions were probably counted under "Foolish" instead of charting separately. Maybe Paul Haney or Chuck can comment further on this.

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Posted: 11 October 2012 at 7:39am | IP Logged Quote cmmmbase
I was working for Mediabase at the time Foolish was a hit (monitoring CHR stations), and I recall that airplay from remixes were merged with the regular versions (this happened with Jennifer Lopez's Ain't It Funny). The only time with mediabase that I recall the opposite happening was with DHT's version of Listen To Your Heart, where the "candlelight" version charted seperately.
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Posted: 11 October 2012 at 12:47pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
cmmmbase wrote:
I was working for Mediabase at the time Foolish was a hit (monitoring CHR stations), and I recall that airplay from remixes were merged with the regular versions (this happened with Jennifer Lopez's Ain't It Funny). The only time with mediabase that I recall the opposite happening was with DHT's version of Listen To Your Heart, where the "candlelight" version charted seperately.

Thanks, Chuck! "I Need A Girl (Part 1)" and "I Need A Girl (Part 2)" had separate chart runs, if I'm not mistaken; however, they may have been released several months apart. "Foolish" and "Unfoolish" (I think) were released around the same time, as was the J-Lo example you mention.

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Posted: 11 October 2012 at 7:07pm | IP Logged Quote mstgator
DJ Sammy's "Heaven" also charted twice on Mediabase's CHR chart (the dance
version first, and while that was dropping the candlelight version hit the Top
40).
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Posted: 11 October 2012 at 9:27pm | IP Logged Quote cmmmbase
actually mstgator, I think I meant the DJ Sammy tune, not DHT. oops - it's been 10 years since I last thought about this!

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Posted: 11 October 2012 at 9:36pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
Yes, but Chuck, didn't "Listen To Your Heart" also have two chart runs? Or did they combine airplay for both the dance mix and the slow version?

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Posted: 11 October 2012 at 10:22pm | IP Logged Quote cmmmbase
Both had candlelight versions. I just talked with a mediabase colleague, and it was DJ Sammy's Heaven that charted two versions on the CHR chart. I think the candlelight version of DHT charted AC.

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Gary wrote:
To confuse the issue even more, I have a radio edit fading at 3:38 and ending at 3:41. I also have a version called [Main] and that fades at 3:40 and then you can lightly hear it end completly at 3:46.


I have a UK edit that times in at 3:31 just to make things more confusing....

Edited by PopArchivist on 24 May 2020 at 5:35pm

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I have a US promo CD single (Murder Inc. DEFR 15536-2) with the following tracks:

     1. Mainstream Edit [3:32]
     2. Instrumental [3:50]
     3. Call Out Research Hook [0:12]

Timings are my own and may be off by a second or two. There are no stated run times.
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